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Teen killers confess, get life sentences
Cox News Sevices ^ | April 15, 2005 | KEVIN DUFFY , KATHY JEFCOATS

Posted on 04/15/2005 5:56:46 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

ATLANTA — Judge Paschal English glared at the teenage girl, shackled at the waist, standing before him. He wanted to know what happened before the killings.

Holly Harvey said she and her girlfriend, Sandy Ketchum, both 16, found a large knife and repeatedly stabbed a mattress and a picture of puppies on a wall.

English grilled Harvey for 35 minutes before sentencing her Thursday to two consecutive life terms. She and Ketchum murdered Harvey's grandparents — Carl Collier, 74, and Sarah Collier, 73 — last August in their Fayette County home.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: grandparents; harvey; ketchum; lesbians; murder; teenagers
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1 posted on 04/15/2005 5:56:47 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

She was sentenced to 3 life sentences but will be out in 14 yrs? Just great


2 posted on 04/15/2005 6:01:43 PM PDT by queenkathy (Everything done in darkness will come to light.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Not to worry - I bet they'll be out in 8 years with good behavior ...


3 posted on 04/15/2005 6:01:47 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
As part of the guilty pleas, Harvey will be eligible for parole in 20 years. Ketchum, who cooperated with police and was going to testify against Harvey, got a lighter sentence: three concurrent life terms. She could go free in 14 years.

Lo and behold! If either of them do more than 7 years, I'll be surprised.

Big news on the Atlanta stations, along with the hearings for Eric Rudolph.

4 posted on 04/15/2005 6:02:18 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Golly...imagine this....these lesbians are supposed to be tolerant. We are supposed to be the narrow minded hateful ones.

The Apostle Paul was correct in his letter to the Church at Rome when he said that these people were evil before they were sexually deviant.
5 posted on 04/15/2005 6:07:14 PM PDT by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
This happened very near to me, in one of the country's most affluent and conservative counties. The victims were devoutly religious people who took over the care of their granddaughter while her mother was incarcerated. In case anyone wonders what gives rise to this kind of behavior, one of several pieces in our local paper today offers an indirect explanation:

Mother says not responsible for daughter’s actions
By LEE WILLIAMS
lwilliams@TheCitizenNews.com

Dressed in a two-piece suit Thursday, Carla Harvey told a small band of reporters that she did not feel she was responsible for the murderous actions of her now 16-year-old daughter, Holly.

Holly Harvey pleaded guilty after learning that her co-defendant, Sandy Ketchum, 16, planned to testify against her at her trial, which was scheduled for May 16 in Thomasville. Ketchum’s trial was scheduled for May. 23.

In exchange for her plea, Harvey received two consecutive life sentences. Harvey will likely be eligible for parole in 20 years, Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard said.

Harvey’s lover and co-conspirator, Ketchum, received a lighter sentence in exchange for her cooperation with authorities.

Ketchum will receive one life sentence in exchange for her plea. She likely will be eligible for parole in 10 years, Ballard said.

Immediately following their courtroom appearances, members of the Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Fayette County office and Fayette County Sheriff Randall Johnson’s office held a press conference to answer additional questions about the case.

One reporter asked Carla Harvey — who was incarcerated for drugs when Holly Harvey murdered Carl and Sarah Collier in their north Fayette County home Aug. 2, 2004 — how much did she hold herself responsible for what Holly did.

Harvey countered: “Absolutely, not at all.”

Harvey indicated she did her best to raise her child as a single parent, but admitted it was hard. The Colliers often pitched in to help, but she said Holly had been raised without a father since she was 18 months old.

Harvey indicated that being a parent was the hardest job a person will ever have and she gave it her all.

“Her actions were her doing and I can’t hold myself responsible for that,” Harvey said. “You raise your children up, but they get to a point where they make their own decisions.”

She added people should be held accountable for their actions. Nevertheless, she would continue to give Holly the love and emotional support she needed during her incarceration.

Kevin Collier, the late Colliers’ son, stated during the press conference that his adoptive parents loved Holly unconditionally.

“They loved her to death,” Collier said. “They would do anything for her. They would watch her whenever she needed to be watched. They would take her anywhere she needed to go.”

Collier said he, too, loved Holly unconditionally. Although he still grieves for his parents, the conclusion of the cases have brought him closer to finding closure.

“This is one part of the closure that I need and the family needs,” he said. “Time will heal certain things. There’s nothing we can do to bring my parents back, but time will heal the tensions and the feelings that I have for Holly.”

6 posted on 04/15/2005 6:08:05 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: queenkathy
But they've got their whole lives ahead of them....
You don't want to ruin any more lives...
Prison will just turn them into hardened criminals....
We're to blame; we failed them....

</lib'ral excuses>

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Did I miss any?

7 posted on 04/15/2005 6:08:15 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: queenkathy
Judge English: "What do you think ought to be done with you?"

Holly Harvey: "I think I should be dead," she replied.

Judge English: "Well, we both agree on that," he said.

8 posted on 04/15/2005 6:09:27 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: hiredhand
Golly...imagine this....these lesbians are supposed to be tolerant.

I certainly wouldn't expect tolerance, nor mercy, nor compassion, from someone whose entire existence was predicated on an utter lie.

9 posted on 04/15/2005 6:12:52 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: queenkathy

It's the sign of a societal sickness that our judicial system tolerates this kind of behavior.


10 posted on 04/15/2005 6:20:15 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: hiredhand

What if your daughter was a lesbian? Would you disown her?

These girls are evil, bad to the bone, but it has nothing to do with their sexuality. Here in Philadelphia we just had a 16 year old girl lure a boy to a gruesome beating death with the promise of hetero sex. Is she any less evil because her sexuality was "natural"?


11 posted on 04/15/2005 6:21:46 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: queenkathy
"3 life sentences"

Makes the liberal judges seem tough!

12 posted on 04/15/2005 6:22:37 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Ole Okie

The subhuman filth should be executed. It is disgusting and offensive that the SCOTUS decided that killers under 18 are "children" who shouldn't be responsible for their crimes. That decision was a crime.


13 posted on 04/15/2005 6:24:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: TheLion

Yes until you realize it's only 14 yrs. What's with that? Unless I read it wrong. Man it must have been horrific for those g/parents. Poor souls!


14 posted on 04/15/2005 6:24:28 PM PDT by queenkathy (Everything done in darkness will come to light.)
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To: madprof98

The animal in human form needs love and emotional support in the form of a hail of bullets or the business end of a rope.

It's the kind, humane thing to do.


15 posted on 04/15/2005 6:27:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Too bad life doesn't mean life. These little darlings need to be locked up forever.


16 posted on 04/15/2005 6:27:28 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: queenkathy

I wish they would give them the years they deserve. I think the rate of recidivism is 60% for former murderers turned loose. Let 100 of them out in 20 years and you guarantee 60 more people get killed. Pretty damned stupid!


17 posted on 04/15/2005 6:27:59 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: TheLion

Well, I should NOT say this, but...I think if she did this for her lesbian relationship, she will be very happy where she is going...Ok, I didn't say that!


18 posted on 04/15/2005 6:32:04 PM PDT by queenkathy (Everything done in darkness will come to light.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
I can't believe this, two lesbians kill both of one of their Grandparents and the law finds a man to blame it on. An old story, it's the guys fault. He will probably get more time then the girls.
19 posted on 04/15/2005 6:43:56 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

This perpetuates the stereotype that homosexuality breeds violence and murder. (If it's widely true, it isn't necessarily a stereotype.)


20 posted on 04/15/2005 6:51:51 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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