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To: Ben Ficklin
The problem with a republican written bill is that it can't pass. The dems have to support it.

The reason a Republican bill won't pass is not the Democrats. The problem is Tancredo and the rest of the idiots in his little clique will not let anything pass unless he can claim credit for the bill and declare himself to be the "savior of the western world" as his followers tell him he is. After all, he needs his worshipers to keep stroking his ego and sending those monthly donations.

It's really funny but sad at the same time. The very person who those obsessed with immigration look to as a god is the same person who is holding up any chance at immigration and border reform.

51 posted on 04/13/2005 6:28:59 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: COEXERJ145
Quite the diatribe there I'd say.

Here's my answer: Tancredo in 2008.

56 posted on 04/13/2005 6:46:03 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: COEXERJ145

DP!!!!


57 posted on 04/13/2005 6:46:34 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: COEXERJ145
It's really funny but sad at the same time. The very person who those obsessed with immigration look to as a god is the same person who is holding up any chance at immigration and border reform

What and not keep the dollars to his PAC flowing and the ethnic animus at a fever high pitch.

You heretic or DP.

58 posted on 04/13/2005 6:51:55 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: COEXERJ145; rdb3; Conservative Firster
Not that it will matter to the knee jerkers on this thread, they are too busy spamming "DP" on every thread. Frist's actions have paved the way for Sensenbrenner's bill to go through.

All these provisions could become law in the near future, as the House attached REAL ID to a must-pass supplemental spending bill. The only stumbling block is that Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) wants to add an actual immigration-related amendment to the spending bill, which the Senate is slated to take up this week.

LINK

70 posted on 04/13/2005 7:15:15 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: COEXERJ145
Either you missed my point or I wasn't clear.

Because Tancredo has split the party, a republican bill cannot pass unless the dems support it. Or even more accurate: Because Tancredo has split the party, only a compromise bill can pass.

In the House it breaks out as:

Democrats- 203
Republicans-132
Tancredo- 100 estimate

71 posted on 04/13/2005 7:16:40 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: COEXERJ145

"The reason a Republican bill won't pass is not the Democrats. The problem is Tancredo and the rest of the idiots in his little clique will not let anything pass unless he can claim credit for the bill and declare himself to be the "savior of the western world" as his followers tell him he is. After all, he needs his worshipers to keep stroking his ego and sending those monthly donations."

Nonsense, this is not even the Tancredo bill at issue, it is amendments that Sensenbrenner got put in; it's not the House that is unsure of itself, but the Senate. Your comments are simply off-target.

The real reason we cant get a good bill out is simply that Republicans are not united. Don't blame Tancredo, there is a cheap labor lobby which has an interest in either illegal immigration or some substitute (aka unlimited guest workers/amnesty etc). Those interests collide with the interests of working Americans who might prefer to have less cheap labor, but save in (a) less taxes, less overburdened services like schools and hospitals, less crime, lower social costs, etc., and better wages for low-end workers.

In the end a compromise will be needed.


95 posted on 04/13/2005 9:11:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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