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To: livius
We have got to make Mexico reinforce the border from its side. I think the "Minutemen" are being allowed to operate (because believe me, our law could stop them if it wanted to) as a threat to the Mexican government. The US, officially, cannot set up border posts, walls or any of the other things some people are clamoring for - imagine the press, and of course the judges would knock it down immediately.

Interesting. This makes me wonder (slightly off-subject) what will happen when the minutemen come to Texas (my home state), as planned. There is serious danger, especially on the border at Laredo - Nuevo Laredo. Full running gun battles that have included cross-border shootings. In this case, the minutemen would very seriously be endagering their own lives, as well as the lives of law enforcement by making a bad situation worse.

That doesn't mean I disagree with what they are doing. But I wonder how they will be received over here. I can very realistically see law enforcement barring them from the area. And when you're looking at problem areas, as the minutemen are, ignoring that part of the border (one of the major crossings into the US for freight, drugs, illegals) would be like doing port security without including New York. Or something like that. ;)

222 posted on 04/13/2005 3:09:56 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: buckleyfan

The reason for this surge in illegals over the Mexican border is that we have tightened up other access since 9/11, including the Canada crossings and the visas and permits we give to people from certain high-risk countries, but we can't get Mexico to secure its side. Part of this is corruption (Mexican officials make a lot from letting drug dealers come and go), but much of it is Fox's insane anti-Americanism.

He was elected from the party that was supposedly conservative, but he's been a total flake, loser, and washout. His own party is not even running him again.


224 posted on 04/13/2005 4:40:27 PM PDT by livius
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To: buckleyfan
Full running gun battles that have included cross-border shootings. In this case, the minutemen would very seriously be endangering their own lives, as well as the lives of law enforcement by making a bad situation worse.

And is this exactly not happening in AZ? And is that not exactly what was predicted to happen if the MMP actually occurred? Look at what really happened.

Major drop in border crossings in the Tuscon Sector.

BIG TIME inconvenience for and decrease in drug trafficking in the Tuscon Sector.

BIG TIME inconvenience for the mexican goverment Groupa Beta and the mexican army to (get this) stop and divert their own soon-to-be criminal illegal aliens to other sectors that do not have MMP Border Watchers present.

Increase in illegal alien spotted/apprehended ratio.

No cross border sniping.

I stood nearly eye to eye with the boys in the mexican army trucks at the pipeline on the Naco line. Strapped on a Glock 21 while grinning at them. Distance, 25 feet. Was not a damn thing they could do except round up their border busters and go somewhere else.

Priceless.

235 posted on 04/15/2005 9:26:57 PM PDT by TLI (. ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA,. .Minuteman Project, Day -1 to Day 8)
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