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1 posted on 04/09/2005 8:20:36 PM PDT by paulat
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We have also found that the grandchildren of smokers are 12% more likely to live in a mobile home.

Therefore, smoking causes mobile homes.


2 posted on 04/09/2005 8:22:40 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Well, considering how many generations back tobacco use goes, I'd say we're all doomed.


3 posted on 04/09/2005 8:22:52 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Yeah, right. Bad science again. I just don't buy this.


4 posted on 04/09/2005 8:23:13 PM PDT by Rightone
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It is patently obvious that female smokers should be put in prison for life, unless they do so while pregnant. These women need to be executed.


5 posted on 04/09/2005 8:23:38 PM PDT by stevem
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Oh my God. Even people who have never seen a cigarette are "at risk". We are all gonna die.


7 posted on 04/09/2005 8:24:38 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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Good Grief..............

Talk about ridiculous. More kids have asthma now with smoking rates at less than 1/4 of the population - relatively few had asthma back when more than 50% of the population smoked..........and back then women not only smoked while pregnant - they also drank alcohol and caffeine.


8 posted on 04/09/2005 8:28:22 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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The scientists will next find that thinking of thoughcrime will cause your grandchildren to be executed by big brother.

big brother loves you.

(/s)


9 posted on 04/09/2005 8:29:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Egads... I think this article is designed to heap guilt upon grandmothers everywhere who were dumb enough to smoke at one time in their lives (me included). I have probably sentenced my two grandchildren to a life as twinkie addicts also. I am happy to say, cigerettes and twinkies are dim memories to me now.


10 posted on 04/09/2005 8:29:30 PM PDT by Cate
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Doing the math... every person needs to form a couple, and every couple needs to have 2 offspring. Less than that, the human race shrinks, more and it grows.

Of course survival of a family lineage is similarly affected by not having children, or by having more than 2 kids.

It's just math. I'd believe that smoking affects your future family legacy. So does choosing to stay single and not have any kids. Is that a crime? (I think it is...)


12 posted on 04/09/2005 8:44:00 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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They found the grandchildren of such women had 2.1 times the normal risk of developing asthma. The children of women who smoked in pregnancy were 1.5 times more likely to develop asthma.

Asthma is INHERITED. My non smoking Grandmother had it. 4 of her kids had it. I have it. Several of my cousins have it.

17 posted on 04/09/2005 9:04:24 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If Stabenow were any bigger a roadblock, she could halt traffic on all of I-75.")
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After 5000 years of tobacco use it is suddenly obvious that some people smoke tobacco. They and their offspring and even their grandchildren are doomed and will die a slow agonizing death. We should all get under our beds and stay there until the universe has imploded. Once that happens we should all come out from under our beds and be thankful that we are still alive given the fact that the universe doesn't exist anymore. Whew, and I thought giving up cigarettes was hard.


20 posted on 04/09/2005 9:08:36 PM PDT by groanup (http://fairtax.org)
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They might want to check to see what these people use to heat their homes.

Wood burning stoves seem to be a large contributer to asthma. I hadn't realized that until I heard a doctor of FNC talk about it. My nephews suffer from it primarily in the winter months and they do have a wood burning stove in their house.

21 posted on 04/09/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT by Netizen (USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
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And the demon weed shall curse you unto the third generation.
25 posted on 04/09/2005 10:22:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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Let's say I could get a government grant and tweak the results to say that "experts" cause cancer. Perhaps this is jumping the gun, so to speak, but isn't it now time to ban the so-called "experts"? Shouldn't we declare that second-hand "experts" can put others at risk? Therefore, "experts" should be banned from public places, even though their use is still 'legal'?
26 posted on 04/09/2005 10:27:19 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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Statistical homeopathy. The weaker the apparent causal link between two correlated phenomena, the stronger the imputed link.

To illustrate, suppose a particular factory uses some chemical which is suspected of causing Syndrome Q. If the incidence of SyQ is much higher among factory workers than among the population at large, that would suggest there might be a causal relationship.

Suppose, however, that the incidence is higher not only among those who actually work in the factory, but also among family members. That would seem to suggest the causal mechanism was so powerful that people didn't even need to work in the factory to be affected.

Now suppose that the incidence was higher not only among the families of factory workers, but also among those who ever visited with the factory workers. That would seem to suggest something more potent still...

Or else it would suggest that perhaps the implied causal relationship doesn't really exist.

27 posted on 04/09/2005 11:13:00 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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Do you believe they are trying this again? I know the retro movement is big in america but damn.Does anyone remeber the "scientist/whores" that said the same tihng about lsd in the 60s when they were tryingot scare people away from it they said it broke dna strands so they parents were at risk of passing on birth defects to thier kids.Then in the late 70s and early 80 s all of the "scientist/whores" admitted they faked the results becasue the federal goverment PAYED them to release those results.I am absolutly certian beyond a shadow of a doubt that that is whats going on here.Hell it might even be some ofthe same "scientists/whores" that did the lsd trials in the mid 60s
29 posted on 04/09/2005 11:27:59 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change goverment support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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Grandchildren of smokers at risk

Oh my frickin' G-d.

They gotta be kidding me.

I bet Isaac Newton is at risk from contemporary smokers, too.

31 posted on 04/10/2005 4:56:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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Bull Sh!t!
37 posted on 04/10/2005 9:35:07 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Grandchildren of smokers at risk

They sure are!

However smoking has nothing to do with their demise.....

41 posted on 04/10/2005 12:27:28 PM PDT by EGPWS
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Yep, when you can't justify the previous studies you need to create more fictitious data to assure the public that the demonization of smoking was the right thing to do.

What else should we expect as the rates of asthma has increased as the rate of smoking (exposure to SHS) has decreased? When your previous stance has shown your logical fallacy, just make stuff up to keep the sheeple herded.


58 posted on 04/11/2005 5:01:13 AM PDT by CSM
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