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CA: Pasadena Neighborhood Locked Down During Gang Hunt
KNBC 4 LA ^ | 4/6/05 | Various1

Posted on 04/06/2005 12:37:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Six Suspected Gang Members Arrested After Shooting

PASADENA, Calif. -- Two undercover police officers following a car full of suspected gang members became involved in a shootout Tuesday night, and at least six suspects have been arrested.

Police said the suspects ran a stop sign at Buckeye street, then suddenly stopped. The driver then opened fire on the officers near the intersection of Madison Avenue and Ashtabula Street, police said. The officers fired back, and others in the car they were following continued to fire. The suspects took off on foot following the shootout.

Nobody was injured, and police arrested the driver and one other suspect a short time later. Four other suspects were arrested after being found hiding behind residential homes within the perimeter that was set up after the shooting.

Although six suspects are in custody, police continued looking for evidence, and the search perimeter remained in place on Wednesday morning.

"We haven't recovered any guns at this point," police Lt. Randell Taylor said after the latest four suspects were arrested. "We are going to send in a bloodhound to look for evidence."

Police asked that anyone with information call the Pasadena Police Department.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: gangs; leo; longhotsummer
Video at link
1 posted on 04/06/2005 12:37:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/06/2005 12:38:54 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BurbankKarl
Urban barbarianism in the home of the Rose Parade.

Sad commentary on the continuing downward spiral of our civilization.

Just my opinion of course.

3 posted on 04/06/2005 12:39:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: bd476; lainie

bd...here is the permimeter I told you about last night.

PING


4 posted on 04/06/2005 12:39:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (The Mainstream Media is neither.)
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To: BenLurkin

There was an attempted sexual assault on a walker along the Linda Vista around 5pm too....very popular walking path around the Rose Bowl....million dollar houses!


5 posted on 04/06/2005 12:40:50 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (The Mainstream Media is neither.)
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To: BurbankKarl

"The driver then opened fire on the officers near the intersection of Madison Avenue and Ashtabula Street, police said. The officers fired back, and others in the car they were following continued to fire. The suspects took off on foot following the shootout.

Nobody was injured..."

Am I alone here, or does anyone else think it's wierd that these shootouts end up with nobody injured? Back to the range for the cops involved; that's my suggestion.

I understand it with the gang boys...they're all holding their pieces sideways, but you'd think the cops could hit something...once in a while.


6 posted on 04/06/2005 12:41:41 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: BurbankKarl
"It's kind of boring tonight, let's find some cops to shoot at."
7 posted on 04/06/2005 12:41:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: yall
Click Here! Now! Hurry before it's too late! Come One! Come All!

8 posted on 04/06/2005 12:48:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: BurbankKarl

let me guess , viva la rasa......


9 posted on 04/06/2005 12:55:01 PM PDT by injin
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To: BurbankKarl
Thanks Karl.

The gangbangers stopped their car and then opened fire at the officers in the police car behind them.

Unbelievable - they are bolder than ever.

10 posted on 04/06/2005 12:55:15 PM PDT by bd476
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To: injin

Could have been anything from illegal aliens to Crips/Bloods to skinhead neo-nazis.

Things are getting way out of hand.


11 posted on 04/06/2005 12:58:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: MineralMan
It seems surprising at first sight, but a couple of things combine to mitigate that surprise.

Firstly, no mention is made of the range at which shots were exchanged.

Secondly, having now seen several of these shoot-outs on the various TV cop shows, one is struck by the mayhem and utter panic which pervades them. Everyone is jumping, running, moving and yelling and firing a gun at the same time. Occasionally they get lucky and wing someone.

I don't know that this situation is ever truly reproduced on the range. It's one thing to shoot at a target but quite another when the target is shooting back.

The movies have a lot to answer for. It all seems so easy for "Dirty Harry".

12 posted on 04/06/2005 1:10:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping Calpernia.


13 posted on 04/06/2005 1:14:38 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: marshmallow

"Secondly, having now seen several of these shoot-outs on the various TV cop shows, one is struck by the mayhem and utter panic which pervades them. Everyone is jumping, running, moving and yelling and firing a gun at the same time. Occasionally they get lucky and wing someone. "

And once in a while some innocent bystander takes a hit from the cops in these shootouts. Whatever happened to taking aim, then firing?

I remember that famous bank robbery shootout in LA. Hundreds of rounds were fired before anyone hit anything. I learned how to shoot from my dad. He told me that if I was ever in a situation where I was exchanging gunfire with someone else that I should slow down, aim, then fire for effect. The other guy probably wouldn't be doing that.

On the range or in the field, aiming is fundamental, whatever the range.

That LA bank robbery shootout could have been handled by one cop with his AR-15. If that cop moved off 50 yards, presented a small profile, then aimed and fired, the whole thing would have been over much more quickly.

Street shootouts are just stupid. The minute they start, the cops should take up sniper positions and end the situation as quickly as possible. As far as I know, all the LAPD cars have a semi-auto rifle or carbine in the trunk.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it.


14 posted on 04/06/2005 1:16:17 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: injin

There were Crips and Bloods operating in Pasadena a few years back.


15 posted on 04/06/2005 1:17:03 PM PDT by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: MineralMan
I know kids that could of ended that LA shoot out quicker than the cops did.

I've heard stories of soldiers in combat firing their rifle with almost supernatural skill and speed.

My guess is that the firearm skill requirements are as rigorously enforced as the physical fitness requirements.
16 posted on 04/06/2005 1:32:53 PM PDT by Anvilhead
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To: Clemenza

Ah, the joys of northwest Pasadena. Was Blood territory, now with competition from 18th street, but I understand that King's village is still dominated by the bloods.

The area is gentrifying, so outside of the project, you have a bunch of yuppies cowering inside of their "carpenter craftsman" bungalows.


17 posted on 04/06/2005 1:38:27 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: BurbankKarl

Pasadena?? Good grief.


19 posted on 04/06/2005 3:50:49 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: marshmallow
It all seems so easy for "Dirty Harry".

If you recall, Harry participated in combat pistol competition matches. That would tend to hone one's shooting skills. Most cops don't even bother to practice, let alone develop competitive shooting skills.

20 posted on 04/06/2005 5:13:36 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Silence is not golden. It is yellow" Senator Zell Miller)
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