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To: texaspirate

Sniff if you like, but its the fact that we don't generally allow vigilantes, and other forms of mob violence, that keeps allows for the defense of property rights. At least if you don't happen to be a better shot than your neighbors.

Besides, even if you endorse the minutemen, you should also support severe punishment for people who employ illegals.


44 posted on 04/02/2005 7:23:50 PM PST by NobleCynic
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To: NobleCynic

"Sniff if you like, but its the fact that we don't generally allow vigilantes, and other forms of mob violence, that keeps allows for the defense of property rights. At least if you don't happen to be a better shot than your neighbors."

I think I am going to have to give this the old double Sniff. Sniff, Sniff.
Number 1 - Nobody has advocated mob violence, nor has there been any evidence of mob violence.
Number 2 - Your sentence makes no sense. (that keeps allows?)
Number 3, Where I live, we have a right to defend our property.


47 posted on 04/02/2005 7:32:27 PM PST by texaspirate (It's not nice to fool mother nature.)
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To: NobleCynic
"that we don't generally allow vigilantes....."

It appears that Bush isn't the only one who doesn't know the meaning of the word 'vigilante'.

I'll try to make it easy for you, newb. Vigilantes, by definition, take the law into their own hands -- they break it. The Minutemen not only haven't broken any laws, but their stated goals are only to alert the (severely undermanned) BP to any suspicious activity. And that's it. Cell phones, walkie-talkies, and binoculars are their "weapons" of choice.

Just think of them as "undocumented Border Patrol."

55 posted on 04/02/2005 7:48:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: NobleCynic

"Sniff if you like, but its the fact that we don't generally allow vigilantes, and other forms of mob violence, that keeps allows for the defense of property rights."

When the law is absent - not being enforced - then citizens have a right to protect themselves. And yes it is life or death to some of us, I even had my office firebombed by illegals. Bush has made a conscious decision not to enforce the current immigration laws - so what choice is there but than to create a citizen militia?


95 posted on 04/02/2005 9:46:05 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: NobleCynic
but its the fact that we don't generally allow vigilantes, and other forms of mob violence, that keeps allows for the defense of property rights.

LOL!

Ya think?

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to James Madison, from Paris, Jan. 30, 1787

"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.
Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them.
An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much.
It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of the government."

Regarding Shay's Rebbellion

147 posted on 04/03/2005 1:18:06 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a 'person' as defined by law.)
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To: NobleCynic

Now you finally said something I can agree with. It should be a TWO pronged attack, close the border and go after employerss who hire illegals.

I think, though, that you are missing the point. What should be done is not being done, nor is any lame attempt being done, the only thing that is being done about the problem is ignoring it and hoping the people won't revolt.

The minuteman project is the beginning of the revolt, it is the 'sort of' final notice to the government that we've had it and they better do something or we will!


198 posted on 04/04/2005 12:05:32 PM PDT by logic ("All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing......")
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