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Thanks for the response.

Have you heard of the welfare program SSI?

I bring that program up because it is a favorite target by immigrant groups. All someone needs to do is claim an "injury" that causes a "disability," such as hypertension or back trouble, and they can collect a check from the government. Also, a friend of mine who works in manufacturing in California tells me of the widespread use of workmans' comp for "stress", almost all of his employees have been from Mexico.

Perhaps a lot of these abuses are done by ordinary Americans, but what my research has shown me is that word travels fast amongst foreigners who come here specifically for the welfare benefits. You and I may not know of many of these programs, but you'd better believe the illegals and many legal immigrants are well versed on how the suck the most out of our system.

I would like to see the entire process slow down, allow us a little time for evaluation and to curtail many of the expenses that are solely a result of massive immigration.

All someone needs to do is claim an "injury" that causes a "disability," such as hypertension or back trouble, and they can collect a check from the government.

SSI is the new home for AFDC mothers and men who are too screwed up or lazy to work. I am familiar with workman's comp. Anyone in a management position should know about it. Legitimate and fraudulent claims are a huge cost on government and business. Multi-million dollar lawsuits for scamming employees who slip on a wet floor are costing small grocery store owners to go bankrupt and dangers from hot coffee severely impede growth in larger companies. I am surprised many people bother to start a business. You need an accountant to do your complex taxes and a lawyer to circumvent red tape, regulations, and legal pitfalls. If OSHA doesn't shut you down, or employees or customers don't sue you, or the global market place doesn't crush you, then you get to pay the government half of your earnings so the government can fix illegal immigration and shrink the workforce.

I would not wish to be a business owner right now.

I'm all for reforming workman's comp to make it easier to discover fraud, but I don't think many illegal employees have the brass to cheat it. The government will pay cheaters for medical costs and lost wages but, they get some of the cost from the offending business. If a business knows the employee is illegal they simply alert the INS of the employees address. I bet most workman's comp filings are for legal citizens.

Of course CA is a liberal state with a large immigrant population. They may not even ask for a SS card. Truthfully I don't know my own states procedure for determining if a SSI recipient is legally eligible for benefits but I bet most illegals don't take a chance on getting deported. The INS deported one million people in 2003. Over 100,000 cases were from investigations in the US not the border. That means about 300 people are caught, processed, sent home everyday. With the numbers I read from your side, we could double triple and quadruple spending on INS and still not even keep pace with the new illegals entering...that still leaves us with 15 million undocumented illegals in the US now.

It seems logical to me that many of those illegals have eluded deportation for years and are likely going to be harder to locate than the 100,000 who are found. It also seems logical that if these illegals do not have criminal tendencies and have a employer who desires their work they may never be found, unless they are enticed with the promise of eventual citizenship, or unless we give the government enough power to look into the lives of anyone they suspect may be illegal.

I prefer the guest worker program because it rectifies 2 problems. It documents the illegal and doesn't shrink the workforce. Just removing the illegal leaves a vacuum for the next illegal to fill.