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Ukraine minister 'killed himself' (shot himself in the head twice)
BBC ^ | March 31, 2005

Posted on 04/01/2005 7:19:53 AM PST by chemical_boy

Ukraine's security service chief has said the death of former Interior Minister Yuri Kravchenko last month was almost certainly suicide.

"There is no other version but suicide," Oleksander Turchynov said, citing forensic and ballistics tests.

Kravchenko was found dead with two gunshot wounds to the head on 4 March in his country house outside Kiev.

He was due to testify later that day about the high-profile murder of journalist Georgiy Gongadze in 2000.

Mr Turchynov said among possible reasons of Kravchenko's apparent suicide was the "burden (of the Gongadze case) he hauled for the past four years".

Kravchenko left a suicide note blaming former President Leonid Kuchma for Gongadze's death, Ukraine's investigators say.

They say in the note he described himself as "a victim of the intrigues of Kuchma and his entourage".

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To: Roses0508
If you are familiar with it, most any distance inside the average home would result in a "hit." I have no trouble at 25 meters. However, it's after the bullet arrives that "underpowered" comes in to play. I'd suggest Corbon (if you can find it-discontinued) or other suitable HP type of ammo. FMJ fine for target shooting.

Makarov is an excellant "glove box gun." Dependable. Easy to clean. Accurate-in most cases. I prefer something larger for home defense, but then I live in rural area. Mileage will vary...

61 posted on 04/01/2005 10:27:08 AM PST by donozark (ATTENTION MICHAEL MOORE:Please go to the courtesy desk. The forklift you requested is ready!)
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To: untrained skeptic
In the chin and out the nose/mouth area? Wouldn't that have to be fired with the gun under the chin and the head looking strait up?

It wasn't straight up vertically, but from the side under the jaw, through the tongue, and out from the opposite side of the nose/upper lip.

62 posted on 04/01/2005 10:47:26 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: untrained skeptic
Two guys holding and 'assisting' you as you squirm around. The shot goes off but the head is moving, bullet goes out the front, not very "realistic" looking and the guy is still alive. Ok, but he's not moving much now, just moaning, quick put it to the temple.

The man had enough dirt to bury every politician, to include all of Yushchenko's people, deep deep under. He should have taken off or had other "insurance".

63 posted on 04/01/2005 10:47:49 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: donozark

Yeah, but keep your hand low on the grip or you'll be loosing a chunk of meat with the slide.


64 posted on 04/01/2005 10:48:58 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6

Secret:Pearce grips.


65 posted on 04/01/2005 10:52:48 AM PST by donozark (ATTENTION MICHAEL MOORE:Please go to the courtesy desk. The forklift you requested is ready!)
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To: Sender

lol must have been a real bit#$#ch


66 posted on 04/01/2005 10:54:09 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: chemical_boy

Death due to one bullet through the Brain Pan is suicide.
Two bullets is very, very sloppy, amateurish murder!

Jack.


67 posted on 04/01/2005 10:55:08 AM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: chemical_boy
Brings back memories...

68 posted on 04/01/2005 11:07:48 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: donozark

I can't find the Corbon anymore.

Hornady still makes a JHP in 9x18, which is what I use in my Mak.

As for underpowered... Well I'd definately perfer to have my .45 Cal Glock G30 on hand than my Mak.

However, for an accurate, reliable gun on a budget, a Mak is a nice choice in my opinion.

I'll agree that it's somewhat marginal with about 8 inches of penetration in balistic geletin. However if you were to give me a budget of $300 I'd suggest a Bulgarian Mak and a case of ammo to practice with.


69 posted on 04/01/2005 12:53:31 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic
Yes. I paid approx.$74 for my Mak. "Unissued." Bulgarian. I checked with Corbon several months ago. They no longer make ammo 9X18MM. I still have several boxes of it left. Hornady a good choice as well.

The Mak is sort of the AK of the pistol world IMO. It does what it does-all day long.

70 posted on 04/01/2005 1:24:02 PM PST by donozark (ATTENTION MICHAEL MOORE:Please go to the courtesy desk. The forklift you requested is ready!)
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