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To: lewislynn; rwrcpa1; ancient_geezer

Uhh, exactly what are these "other taxes and fees excises " that you maintain will bring this up to 30%?

As I read it, 23% is 23% which translates to $123 on $100.

Enlighten us, please!

CA....


82 posted on 03/31/2005 9:30:15 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Chances Are

Tarriffs for one, I guess.


85 posted on 03/31/2005 9:36:52 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Chances Are

Uhh, exactly what are these "other taxes and fees excises " that you maintain will bring this up to 30%?

From the Fair Tax website:

 

FairTax FAQ
http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/faq-main.html#47

I know the FairTax rate is 23 percent when compared to current income taxes. What will the rate of the sales tax be at the retail counter? 30 percent. This issue is often confusing, so we explain more here.

When income tax rates are quoted, economists call that a tax-inclusive quote: “I paid 23 percent last year.” If that were the case, for $100 one earned, $23 went to Uncle Sam. Or, “I had to make $130 to have $100 to spend.” That’s a 23-percent tax-inclusive rate.

We choose to compare the FairTax to income taxes, quoting the rate the same way, because the FairTax replaces such taxes. That rate is 23 percent.

Sales taxes, on the other hand, are generally quoted tax-exclusive: “I bought a $77 shirt and had to pay that same $23 in sales tax. This is a 30-percent sales tax.” Or, “I spent a dollar, 77¢ for the product and 23¢ in tax.” This rate, when programmed into a point-of-purchase terminal, is 30 percent.

Note that no matter which way it is quoted, the amount of tax is the same. Under an income tax rate of 23 percent, you have to earn $130 to spend $100.

Spend that same $100 under a sales tax, you pay that same $30, and the rate is quoted as 30 percent.

Perhaps the biggest difference between the two is under the income tax, controlling the amount of tax you pay is a complex nightmare. Under the FairTax, you may simply choose not to spend, or to spend less.


Figure 4: 23 percent tax-iunclusive vs. 30 percent tax-exclusive


96 posted on 03/31/2005 12:03:30 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Chances Are; lewislynn; rwrcpa1; ancient_geezer

You will have to believe in the tooth fairy if you want lewislynn to enlighten you. I tell you here and now that he comes on these threads and hammers on one or two missteps in the way the bill was originally written to splatter the whole thing against the pavement. His agenda is nothing more than the status quo. The bill, if it goes far enough, will be subject to write up in congress. lewis doesn't want anything to change so he conjures up this lie that the mistakes in the original bill will be written in stone. Don't believe anything he says.


111 posted on 03/31/2005 7:42:57 PM PST by groanup (http://fairtax.org)
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