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US-Mexican border as a terror risk
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | March 22, 2005 | Faye Bowers

Posted on 03/25/2005 9:03:21 AM PST by Ramonan

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To: JohnnyZ
I never said "no" to legal immigration, only to unlimited legal immigration. To repeat, if there are not at least some restrictions we'll be a third-world country before you know it, filled with people who don't give a damn about American culture and consider a large portion of the U.S. as "stolen Mexican land."

Your "labor shortage" assertion is the biggest stinking pile of BS imaginable.

41 posted on 03/25/2005 11:26:55 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: HiJinx

Good point!


42 posted on 03/25/2005 11:36:33 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: Mr. Mojo

You are very right a drive thru Miami will show the slide into a toilet from once Paradise! Look these people and their ancestors ruined the place they are slithering from Then what exactly do you think they will do here Also in the old days you had to take a test and speak English to become a citizen I believe.Mexico?? who killed the Aztecs and squatted on their land?


44 posted on 03/25/2005 11:45:16 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: JohnnyZ

Sir, please stop twisting my words. I have no problem with legal immigration from any part of the world.

I resent your statements to the contrary.


45 posted on 03/25/2005 11:46:18 AM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Next up is Operation 4th of July)
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To: JohnnyZ
Right, you and Mr. Mojo want to keep the Hispanics out, period.

Oh boy. Are you wrong or are you wrong?

46 posted on 03/25/2005 11:47:58 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: HiJinx
Sir, please stop twisting my words. I have no problem with legal immigration from any part of the world.

Then why did you so strenuously object to my suggestion that we allow legal immigration?

47 posted on 03/25/2005 12:23:02 PM PST by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: JohnnyZ
Then why did you so strenuously object to my suggestion that we allow legal immigration?

Well, let's see. I posted to you in posts 28, 36, and 45.

In post 28, I take you to task for characterizing me as anti-hispanic and for suggesting that we need illegal immigrant labor. Nope, nothing there to say that I strenuously object to legal immigration.

In post 36 I call you out for making a strawman argument. Nope, nothing there to say that I strenuously object to legal immigration.

And in post 45 I ask you to stop mischaracterizing my position vis-a-vis illegal immigration. Nope, nothing there to say that I strenuously object to legal immigration.

It would appear that you are having a hard time with practicing your reading and comprehension skills.

48 posted on 03/25/2005 12:47:25 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Next up is Operation 4th of July)
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To: Ramonan

If Mexico is the back door, where is the front door?


49 posted on 03/25/2005 12:50:10 PM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: HiJinx

You started out attacking the "cheap labor" and tried to stage the argument as some ridiculous choice between security and immigration. In post 36 you scoffed at letting Hispanics into the US, and suggested that was a fate so terrible that you were not prepared to accept it. How could I interpret that as anything BUT hostility toward legal immigration?


50 posted on 03/25/2005 12:58:21 PM PST by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: Ramonan

'Vigilantes' bad, terrorists good.


51 posted on 03/25/2005 2:24:56 PM PST by La Enchiladita ("I try to speak for those who have no voice. Terri Schiavo has no voice." - Patricia Heaton)
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To: Cactuspete
Several million emails to the presidents email address wouldnt hurt anything.

In English or in Spanish?

52 posted on 03/25/2005 2:27:08 PM PST by La Enchiladita ("I try to speak for those who have no voice. Terri Schiavo has no voice." - Patricia Heaton)
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To: Fast1
Simple the borders should be protected my the military and lethal force Period; In these days why take a chance we are at War!

Instead, before too long, you will see the National Guard used against our own patriotic Americans concerned with border security.

53 posted on 03/25/2005 2:32:20 PM PST by La Enchiladita ("I try to speak for those who have no voice. Terri Schiavo has no voice." - Patricia Heaton)
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To: HiJinx

He is here to get the thread yanked. ignore.


55 posted on 03/25/2005 2:50:58 PM PST by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: Fast1
I believe.Mexico?? who killed the Aztecs and squatted on their land?

That was the Spanish. They, or at least the common soldiers, then married the Indian maidens. Thus today's Mexicans, except the very upper crust, are mestizoes, mixed Spanish and Indian. Of course the type of Indian varied accross Mexico. Apaches in the north, Aztecs in the middle and Mayans in the South. Lots of other tribes and nations as well. Fox is not a Spanish name, it's Irish. So he isn't quite part of that "upper crust" I mentioned. OTOH, his ancestors may have been from the large group of Irish Catholic turncoats from the US Mexican war, who stated in the US Army (or in some cases militias) but went over to the Mexican side.

56 posted on 03/25/2005 3:17:45 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: sarah_f
If Mexico is the back door, where is the front door?

New York City. None of terrorists who where on the planes on 9-11 came in through Mexico. They all flew in to various northeastern US cities.

57 posted on 03/25/2005 3:20:56 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Afronaut

"He is here to get the thread yanked. ignore."

BINGO! Part of me wants to say more, but another part says I'd better watch the temper.


58 posted on 03/25/2005 3:45:02 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: jackbenimble
In a few days they will be telling us the only solution is to let them all come in legally as either guestworkers or with greencards.

Not a solution at all. It's more profitable, because it's tax-free, to sneak in and get paid cash under the table. If you're paid $6.00 an hour with no withholding, it amounts to more than the net at $7.00 above board. Some folks are saying that deductions on their wages are being withheld, but if you were an employer hiring these people for casual work, would you risk being found out and possibly fined or jailed?

So the mojados have more to send home as well as more for basic immediate needs.

Thus a guest worker system would be OK, but the borders still have to be sealed.

Makes one wonder whether we should notify IRS instead of INS when we see illegals at work. Maybe something would get done. You know nothing's going to happen if you call INS.

59 posted on 03/25/2005 8:43:58 PM PST by Marauder (Matthew 6:18)
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To: JohnnyZ
Anti-immigration "conservatives" are the biggest obstacle to passing legislation against illegal immigration.

There's already legislation against illegal immigration. That's why it's illegal. Our problem is enforcement, or more to the point, lack thereof.

60 posted on 03/25/2005 8:46:35 PM PST by Marauder (Matthew 6:18)
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