[Bear_Slayer]

Having witnessed the end of Timothy McVeigh, I would have to disagree with calling his actions "in principle, i.e standing up to government." He planned and committed cold-hearted murder, period.

You confuse the two. In principle, what he did was stand up to big government. In practice, he murdered 187 people.

With all due respects, if you are only willing to join a fight someone else has started, and not stand up for what you see as wrong on your own or start the fight because you see the injustice, then you truly lack the courage of your convictions

It is not that I lack the courage of my convictions; I make an observation about many. The cost, even as little as it is, is too high, at the present. That is why many, wait to pick their battles.

Am I a coward? Maybe - but I'm waiting for the 2nd shot heard round the world and then, if it is a good fight - I'll get in.

[Military family member]

If you're gonna be a Knight act like a Knight.

I am not calling you a coward, but wouldn't a knight recuse fair maiden, then worry about the rest?

As for McVeigh, I am not confusing the two. Elevate McVeigh's actions to the level of principle is like say Charles Manson struck a blow against the evils of Hollywood. There was nothing noble in what McVeigh did to the 187 people. He was a coward.