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Now, she may die during a possible putative transfer.
If I were in Florida I would vote for Gov. Bush. He has done all he absolutely can. Why are people advocating he takes this further?
Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is under growing pressure to intervene, but he says he "cannot go beyond what my powers are."
It is very late in the game on both counts.
For him, I hope it involves gang rape in a prison shower followed by 10 or so years of dealing with AIDS. Death process. What a crock.
This is about who determines when we die.
But Brian Schiavo, the brother of Mrs Schiavo's husband Michael who has argued for her to be allowed to die with dignity, strongly disagreed, telling CNN that Terri Schiavo "does look a little withdrawn" but insisting she was not in pain. He added that starvation is simply "part of the death process".
Yes, dehydration is (sometimes) a part of the death process...the natural death process. Natural meaning when God decides it's time for one to die. Starvation is not (in this case) natural. There are people in my area who have gone to JAIL for not feeding their horses. Mass murderers are killed with an injection.
To not afford this woman the same rights animals and criminals have is cruel. To murder her instead of allowing her to die naturally says a whole lotta bad about our society.
That's what this is about.
I think Jeb Bush blew his chances the other day when he announced on national TV that he was going to take custody of Terri and failed to do so. I saw him on Fox this morning and he looked like a wounded puppy. If he don't show some courage soon, his political career is over. IMHO
What an a$$hole.
So lynchings are part of the civil rights process.
And JFK's assasination was part of the political process.
Jeb Bush has disappointed the whole world.
As it stands, he's now got the Terri supporters mad at him, too!
Better hurry, Jeb!!!
I don't know about the rest of you, but this business from the MSM about the fanatical religious right and extreme religious community interfering with the husband's wishes is starting to grate on my nerves. As much as I have respected Mort Kondracke, last evening on the Britt Hume show, Mort came out first with the statement about the religious right trying to influence the outcome of Terri Schavio. Then Juan Williams piled on about the right-wing conservative movement trying to make this political. Really honked me off....this is about life....
Governor Jeb Bush, jeb.bush@myflorida.com
Friday, March 25, 2005
The court, in 1997 when Michael announced he was'engaged' should have immediately conducted a guardianship hearing and transfered Terri to State guardianship. Because of this failure, we are in the present situation.
Questions you might consider:
(1) Why did Michael choose to 'ignore' her wishes for nearly 7 years until 1997 when he announced he was'engaged' to Jodi Centonze and 'suddenly' remembered the conversation about life support with Terri from years before?
Michael Schiavo answer would probably rationalize that it took that long before he realized there was 'no hope for recovery...'
(2) However, the 1992 malpractice suit for $20 million was based on the premise/conclusion that Terri would NOT recover and she would require constant medical care for the remainder of her life estimated by Michael Shiavo and his laywers to be 51 years(which is the normal life expectancey)...Where were her WISHES at that time?
(3) The court, in 1997 when Michael announced he was'engaged' should have immediately conducted a guardianship hearing and transfered Terri to State guardianship, at a minimum because of the obvious conflict of interest on the part of Michael Shiavo.
The court system failed to act at that point, and that is a major factor on why we are at the point we are today.
Guardianship, by law and practice, is determined to be given to that person who is most heavily 'biased' in favor of the disabled person. Under most conditions this would be the spouse. However, most prudent courts, if during the guardianship period, the appointed guardian by circumstances or accident tilts the 'bias' away from the interest of the person so guarded, would conduct and immediate review, and at a minimum, transfer guardianship to the appropriate State agency.
hope this is useful
Van & Katherine Jenerette
North Myrtle Beach, SC
Professor, Political Science, SCC
Associate, Sociology, Coastal Carolina University, South Carolina
No, can't read the article or anything else anymore. It's useless. Done. Over. The last No came with this whitmore guy. There are no other options. So, I don't want to read or hear anymore talking, filings or anything else. Those that want her dead will now get their wish. Terri will no longer be a burden on those of this earth. Funny isnot it? The ones with the loudest mouths and the authority to do something are the ones who want her dead while her mother PLEADS for the life of her daughter...her child...her blood. Well, let the blood of Terri rest on all those who kill her.
Jeb Bush is worried about his political career. He doesn't have the guts to take her into custody.
And under his breath he added, "for someone other than me."
If Jeb Bush does not do as he said he would and take custody of Terri, he shows himself as a man who speaks well, but considers his intent as sufficient. Does the name Bill Clinton come to mind? Florida law enables DCF to intervene in the case of an incapacitated adult whose life is in danger. They then have one business day to petition the court to approve. It does not have to be Greer, who should be in jail, it can be any court in Florida. If the custodial guardian is the danger, they don't have to ask for the guardian's permission to act. Thus Jeb has the opportunity to use whatever force is necessary to take custody of Terri because she in an incapacitated adult in imminent danger of death and her guardian is the cause of that danger. Civil rights actions have shown that obeying a law which is wrong is in itself wrong. Disobeying it is the right course. Intervening would show Jeb to be a man of courage, moral rectitude, and honor. He would be known as a man of his word. Failing to act shows the opposite.
I am not angry at the governor of Florida, it is the out-of-control judiciary, most of whom would not recognize justice if it slapped them in the face, which angers me. Not only the worthless judges (almost said scum, but that would insult innocent scum) in Florida and in the Federal Court system I find disgusting. It is time to remind judges at all levels that they eat, sleep, pass wind, and must bathe regularly just like the rest of us. They are not gods nor demi-gods. They are only one part of the government, and their job is to adjudicate the behavior of men and women in the light of the law, not to govern by fiat from the bench. And we need to remind the LEOs that they work for the executive, not the judicial branch. NO, repeat NO law officers should ever take any order from a judge unless that order is ratified by the executive for whom he works.
All of you folks in Florida should burn out the switchboard at the capitol calling to tell the governor to get off his derriere and save this woman.
Judge James Whittemore will be "working" until she dies.
What a wonderful person he is. JB isnt going to take custody of her. He already made the announcement once, which is seldom done, this allowed Judge Greer to file motions to stop him. He has the power.
They are killing, IMO, a brain damaged but aware human being who has commented no crime. That is murder.
I just about puked when watching "CNN Schiavo Love Story", it fell flat. He and his brother can go on all the networks for damage control but he is murdering her nonetheless. I feel so sorry for her parents, her brother and sister. They are the ones who love her unconditionally.
Well what is he waiting for? I am very disappointed in Jeb.