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Jeb Bush may take Terri Schiavo into state care
Times On Line.UK ^ | 3/25/2005 | Jenny Booth, Times Online and Tim Reid

Posted on 03/25/2005 4:33:23 AM PST by ex-Texan

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To: duckman

You are wrong.


21 posted on 03/25/2005 4:54:17 AM PST by merry10
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To: Dante3
Why is everyone so amazed at Judge Greer's actions?

He is acting like every other Judge in the United States. He has done nothing different. He alone determines, within his court, what can and cannot be admitted into court.

We do not have to like his decisions, but they are his to make. Jeb Bush understand that because he is an intelligent man and a good leader.

22 posted on 03/25/2005 4:54:33 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: merry10
If I were in Florida I would vote for Gov. Bush. He has done all he absolutely can. Why are people advocating he takes this further?

Because we want to save Terri's life.

23 posted on 03/25/2005 4:54:51 AM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: Diogenesis
He is a fool for not immediately doing this last week.

Absolute nonsense! It's just oh-so-easy for you and others behind the keyboard to talk about taking action. But the anger at Jeb Bush - the man who has arguably done the MOST to save Terri, including working with Congress on last week's legislation - is very misplaced.

Wanna be angry? Get angry at that SOB judge who has twice defied Congress and the President, not mention the FL governor and legislature.

24 posted on 03/25/2005 4:55:10 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: merry10
No, I don't believe Jeb Bush has done all he can. Judge Greer has not only ordered that her feeding tube be withdrawn (the so called "artificial" support) he has also denied a request by her parents that she be given water and food by mouth. This order is clearly illegal. No judge or guardian has the power to deny a person nourishment by natural means and it does not take an attorney to figure this out. I defy anyone to find legal authorization, even in Florida law, for this order.

As is stated in another thread on an article by a doctor (William Anderson) in the Weekly Standard titled "Terri's Last Chance" there is no medical, legal or moral reason to not attempt a trial of natural drinking. He argues all the outcomes of such a trial, even if it results in a quicker death, are better than refusing to allow her to attempt to take food and water on her own. A decent and humane society, which we claim to be, owes Terri at least the opportunity to try to take a drink. Only Greer's order stops this and such an order is not within the power of a court to make or a guardian to enforce.

Jeb and George Bush should blast Judge Greer out of the water on this illegal order and immediately give her water by mouth. He is only getting away with this order by default because there has been so much focus on the feeding tube. We don't know if Terri could accept enough nutrition to stay alive but every human being has the right to try to take a drink of water! If it works, this could allow time to dismiss Greer for violating her human rights by his order and overturn the guardian decision.

25 posted on 03/25/2005 4:55:31 AM PST by politeia
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To: merry10
If I were in Florida I would vote for Gov. Bush. He has done all he absolutely can.

So would I, if he were running again. But he's not.

26 posted on 03/25/2005 4:55:44 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ex-Texan

Jeb Bush has disappointed the whole world.


27 posted on 03/25/2005 4:56:05 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie Schiavo)
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To: merry10

Why?


28 posted on 03/25/2005 4:56:45 AM PST by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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To: blu

*bump* This is about both. The ethics of forced starvation, as well as the errors of law that found from witness testimony that Terri would have ordered this course of medical neglect for herself.


29 posted on 03/25/2005 4:56:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: merry10
Why are people advocating he takes this further?

This isn't about him doing what the limits of the law say, but rather, doing what is right. Sometimes the two don't meet up. Right should always trump.
30 posted on 03/25/2005 4:57:19 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (If you're gonna be a Knight act like a Knight.)
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To: merry10

Right on merry! Apparently, the emotional among us have forgotten that we are a nation of laws.


31 posted on 03/25/2005 4:57:22 AM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: toadthesecond
If I see one picture of an American Eagle with a tear in it's eye posted after Terri passes away, I swear that my PC gets thrown out of the window.

Good. I'm making a note to self to post an eagle with a tear in its eye.

32 posted on 03/25/2005 4:57:31 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Iluvbush2

The men who fought the American Revolutionary War rejected the "laws" of the King.

Today in America we embrace our new King, Judge George Greer.


33 posted on 03/25/2005 4:57:38 AM PST by MisterRepublican (End Judicial Tyranny Now!)
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To: merry10

Bush will not be up for re-election, he's in his second term.


34 posted on 03/25/2005 4:58:13 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Post5203

I agree wholeheartedly. The executive branch can suspend habeas corpus, grant clemency, issue pardons, instate martial law. If this federal judge again denies the intent of Congress, then Jeb Bush must act in order to uphold the law. Sure, it will throw Florida into a mess, but Jeb Bush will survive as a man of principle and courage. If he doesn't do it, he comes across as a well-intentioned handwringer... why does Pontius Pilate come to mind?


35 posted on 03/25/2005 4:58:13 AM PST by Pinetop
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To: toadthesecond
I believe I read "dozens of supporters" outside the hospice.

Anyone who thinks that action is the answer, damn the law, and full steam ahead, should grab a gun and go there and get here. Or hire some mercenaries and send them in.

Then start praying for the other innocent people who will be hurt in all this—the wives and children of the police officers who are doing their duty outside the hospice. Or the bystanders who will catch stray bullets.

Thank you, Mr. Toad. Well Put!

36 posted on 03/25/2005 4:59:21 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Pinetop

Do you really believe that Jesus wouldn't have died if Pontius Pilate had decided otherwise?


37 posted on 03/25/2005 4:59:34 AM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53

Other people are pointing that out. What I am saying is that I would support him anyway. He is out of options here.


38 posted on 03/25/2005 5:00:03 AM PST by merry10
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To: Bear_Slayer

Indeed, remember people marched some years ago to highlight the needs of civil rights. They disobeyed the existing laws in order to make changes. People stood in the doorways of schools and universities to prevent other Americans from gaining entry to those schools and by disobeying the law, changes were made.

This is another time for civil disobediance by the Governor of Florida. Take DCFS in there, lead them in, and let the chips fall where they may...

G


39 posted on 03/25/2005 5:00:55 AM PST by GRRRRR (America the Wonderful! Optimism beats Pessimism Every Time!)
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To: Archangelsk

So did the decisions of the officials who send troops in there.


40 posted on 03/25/2005 5:01:04 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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