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To: Mad Mammoth

I know you didn't say those things, I was just suggesting those as weak links. If the fix was truly in, why weren't those folks involved? Makes no sense.

I agree that this is a miscarriage of justice. That being said, I am mature enough to know that it isn't the first one, and it isn't the last.

Age before beauty, gramps... ;-)


92 posted on 03/23/2005 1:46:36 AM PST by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY
I know you didn't say those things, I was just suggesting those as weak links. If the fix was truly in, why weren't those folks involved? Makes no sense.

OK, I understand what you're saying and here is why ALL of the people didn't have to be in on the 'fix':

First of all, the corruption of the judicial process began (naturally) at the bottom, where Michael Schiavo and his attorney George Felos conspired to deprive Terri Schiavo of her civil rights. It is urgent (so far as Michael Schiavo is concerned) to be sure Terri does not survive long enough to perhaps be rehabilitated to the point where she might be able to communicate more about what really happened to her in her 'accident' in 1990. It is also vital that Terri's body be immediately cremated in order to prevent any forensic review post-mortem. Judge Greer has already ruled in favor of that. The villains for the most part in this sad episode are the judges up and down the food chain, i.e., while not ALL judges are necessarily in on the 'fix', they are parties to the abuse of the judicial system by denying Terri Schiavo her civil rights which are guaranteed under the Constitution. Because Judge Greer has consistently ruled in favor of Michael Schiavo, there has been great reluctance on the part of any judge to issue an order which would be seen as a rebuke of Greer's handling of the case. Make NO mistake: every judge, when they contemplate their decisions, consider that IF they in effect rebuke a fellow jurist, that same standard MAY one day be used on THEM. This is not unlike the reason that tarantulas mostly tolerate the presence of other tarantulas, even tho they all could inflict nasty bites on each other. Judges, like tarantulas, seldom provoke each other because they know instinctively (and from their own experiences) that they exericse vast power, over and above the executive or legislative branches, law enforcement agencies, let alone We The Peasants.

What I'm saying is that there was no NEED for each and every person to be in on the initial 'fix', all that was needed was for the abuse of the process to be *started* (with Schiavo, Felos and Greer), and what was originally a fair and balanced judicial system became immensely UNfair and UNbalanced as the corruption from the bottom of the chain reverberated all the way up the ladder. No corrective action was taken within the judicial system because to do so would cause even greater reverberations, in other words, nobody wanted to rock the boat in the interest of self-preservation of those highly coveted black robes.

I agree that this is a miscarriage of justice. That being said, I am mature enough to know that it isn't the first one, and it isn't the last.

Oh I agree with you that this isn't the first one, but I submit that this current travesty just might be the straw that broke the camel's back. There will be repercussions, and they will be severe, inexplicable, and before it is all over, whatever is left of America will be hiding under their beds in total abject horror at what is coming down the pike.

Believe that.

Age before beauty, gramps... ;-)

You're more than welcome to it. ;)
99 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:17 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: HitmanNY

This miscarriage of justice started with three things: A state law that allows food and water to be considered extraordinary care that can be refused, a state law that allowa hearsay to take the place of a written living will, and a husband who was willing to use both pieces of law.

Once Judge Greer ruled that under Florida law, Terri Schiavo wanted to die if she became incapacitated, her death warrrant was sealed.

Perfectly legal, if injust. Very similar to some Nazi legislation that allowed mercy killing of the mentally ill and handicapped.

What the courts have done was to re-emphasize that what the courts did was LEGAL. Not right, nor just, nor fair.

There is true justice, and there is the legal system. Often the legal system is only an approximation of justice.

This is one of those cases.

It breaks my heart.


100 posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:01 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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