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G.O.P. Right Is Splintered on Schiavo Intervention
NY Times ^ | 3.23.05

Posted on 03/22/2005 10:42:14 PM PST by ambrose

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To: mississippi red-neck

Sorry about he double post. It's late.


41 posted on 03/23/2005 12:45:31 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: ambrose

And the leftist propaganda machine rolls on.


42 posted on 03/23/2005 12:47:24 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: ambrose

No matter what, if Terri dies in barbaric fashion from deliberate dehydration and starvation, it will be the Democrats who take the blame. I only hope the GOP has the sense to help the nation's seniors make the connection. The Democrats are the party of death; the party of euthenasia; the party of "offing" inconvenient disabled folks such as those who have suffered strokes or become too aged to feed themselves.


43 posted on 03/23/2005 12:55:31 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Hootch

"I know many strong christian people that feel she should be allowed to die"

The MSM has so grossly misrepresented this case that many are just responding to what they hear and do not realize Terri is NOT TERMINALLY ILL, that she is NOT HOOKED UP ON LIFE SUPPORT, that she never received a PET scan that would definitively diagnose PVS, and that Michael deserted his wife long ago and never allowed her the rehabilitation she needed. Sadly, some good but uninformed people just react to soundbites and emotion.

Terri is not being ALLOWED to die - she is being MADE to die by depriving her of food and water - it's called murder - the cruel murder of a disabled woman by a court based on strictly heresay evidence.

Still praying for Terri - and for our country. God help us.


44 posted on 03/23/2005 2:06:03 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Hootch

I am a deeply Christian conservative and I am also a registered nurse with a bachelor's degree in nursing. I do not consider this murder at all. I am not cold hearted, I am not evil, and I am most certainly not uninformed, nor am I misinformed.
This issue is so highly charged emotionally that it is almost impossible to have a rational conversation about it.
I have attempted to read the facts of this case and avoid the opinions. In the absence of actual proven facts, I do not give credibility to the allegations made about Michael Schiavo because they were not made until after there was a falling out between him and the Schindler family.
As a Christian, I have the hope and firm belief that Heaven is a real place that is something to be looked forward to, not avoided at all costs. If Terri was a practicing Catholic, then she has that same hope of Heaven, and to be forever young, forever healthy, never again in pain, then to keep her from her ultimate home seems to be more cruel than what is being called murder in these posts.


45 posted on 03/23/2005 2:55:24 AM PST by TheLionessRN
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To: ambrose
"When a case like this has been heard by 19 judges in six courts and it's been appealed to the Supreme Court three times, the process has worked - even if it hasn't given the result that the social conservatives want. For Congress to step in really is a violation of federalism."

Imagine what would have happened if Congress would have had the moral integrity and fortitude to step in to grant freedom to Dred Scott after his unsuccessful appeal to the US Supreme Court.

46 posted on 03/23/2005 2:59:45 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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To: TheLionessRN

With all due respect, as a diabled woman myself, and as a Christian, your post sent chills down my spine. I just pray my death will be by God's choosing, not by someone who thinks I no longer have a live worth living and would be better off dead.


47 posted on 03/23/2005 3:42:31 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: Texas Deb

Let me clarify my response - I just pray my death will be by God's choosing, not by some JUDGE who thinks I no longer have a life worth living and would better off dead.


48 posted on 03/23/2005 3:54:28 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: ambrose
Note to the NYT: Conveniently ignoring all of us DEMS who support what the GOP is doing here, ain't ya?
49 posted on 03/23/2005 3:56:07 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: TheLionessRN
Here's another disabled Christian who thinks you're pretty scary. You sound like you've become too enmeshed in the administration of medical care to the detriment of your conscious. You also sound like you need the bed space. Because of RN's like you, my Dying Directive is filled out with much specificity and with the disclaimer, "I want to live."
50 posted on 03/23/2005 4:13:59 AM PST by 1lawlady
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To: Sir Valentino

Some of us real TRUE Republicans/conservatives CAN have a different opinion on this case, thanks.


51 posted on 03/23/2005 4:23:05 AM PST by Moonmad27
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Some Federal Judge will probably make it illegal for Terri to have a funeral.

There isn't going to be any funeral. The so-called husband is determined to have her cremated immediately after her death. It's an example of what law-enforcement people refer to as "destroying the evidence".

52 posted on 03/23/2005 7:20:25 AM PST by jpl (The Deathocrats are a bigger threat to our society than the Islamic terrorists.)
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There isn't going to be any funeral. The so-called husband is determined to have her cremated immediately after her death. It's an example of what law-enforcement people refer to as "destroying the evidence".

They'll be a funeral, the question is if Terri's parents and family will be invited. Talk about a controlling "husband".

Hey, its a states rights issue where the "husband" now has the right to put his wife to death. - sarcasm

53 posted on 03/23/2005 7:32:23 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: ambrose
No doubt there is disagreement. The Republican party is a large party. In some places, it is the majority party. Whenever you get a large group of people together there will likely be disagreements on various issues.

That said, it is clear that being a death lover does not require allegiance to any particular political party. Evidently advocating the death by starvation of an innocent person can be a bipartisan position, although my impression is that there are more 'Rats on the pro-death side than 'Pubs.

54 posted on 03/23/2005 7:50:50 AM PST by chimera
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To: Texas Deb

As I stated in my post, this whole thing is too emotionally charged. You really don't know WHAT I think, beyond the fact that I don't view what is happening as murder, because that is an emotion charged word. You don't know what kind of nurse I am, nor have you seen me holding hands with family members over the bed of their dying relative, praying for peace and comfort, and hugging them every day.
Murder would be going into the room and putting a pillow over her head, or shooting her dead on the spot.

I have said over and over again that I wish I knew what King Solomon would have done in this case. I wish I knew all the answers and I certainly wish that there was more information and less emotion tied to it.

The whole point of my post was actually the fact that, as a Christian, my hope of Heaven, which is supposed to be my ultimate home, should also be the hope of Terri, and a good thing! No more pain, no more illness. She will walk and talk, sing, dance and run if she wants to! And she will be with the Lord.


55 posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:54 PM PST by TheLionessRN
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To: TheLionessRN

First, I know exactly what you think as you expressed it in your original post.

Secondly, I made no comment about your nursing skills.

Thirdly, compassion and caring lie in the individual, not in his or her profession. I have been hospitalized over 30 times with my illnesses - I have had good nurses and I have had nurses from hell. And, no, I have not seen you do all the things you have mentioned - but I have done them all myself.

Lastly, I still stand by my original comment - now more than ever - as a disabled woman, your original post gives me cold chills.


56 posted on 03/23/2005 3:56:55 PM PST by Texas Deb
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