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spf 1000 conservative block, that is hilarious.

What really got me and the other conservative mothers was the double standard. My threads were constantly being pulled, closed for "review" so no one else could post to them, and all of us felt like the liberal moms could say whatever they wanted and we had to constantly self censor out of fear of being banned or disciplined.

I wanted to tell those gals who were the moderators that if we ever did get completely socialized in America they should look for work as though police because they had the job down pat.

If you are interested, here is my final post, the one that got me banned.

I had started a thread the week before the Iraq election (it has been pulled) titled the One week long cyber party for the Iraq election. I just knew the Iraqi people were going to vote in mass and that the election was going to be a terrific success. I was immediately flamed and although the mods told people to be respectful of my "party" certain posters just could not resist dumping all their garbage on my thread. Finally, I just had it, and said what I thought.

I called them "Nobles" like the nobles in Braveheart. And that is what they are.

My post is preceeded by my banning notice from the main moderator of the site (Whom I actually like and respect and consider a friend - she let me back on the site after my first banning when I pleaded with her to give me another chance. I promised that I would tone down my rhetoric, and I really tried, but with this post, I just let them have it because I was tired of having to censor myself when everyone else could say whatever they wanted)

In terms of her claim that I was "insulting" to others on the board, please note that I was insulted in a dozen different ways, every day that I participated on that board - I guess free speech means that liberals can insult us with their flag burning and their screaming and their defilement of everything we hold sacred, but when we call them on it and hold up a mirror to show them as the hippocrites that they are, well, that is insulting and will not be tolerated... -

Jenny, in light of past issues, your past suspension, your subsequent
warnings and alerts, and your ongoing issues with this community I am
closing your account. I have made numerous attempts to justify and defend
your membership here and have stood up to many longtime, devoted and sincere
MDC members in that regard which may have cost me much of their respect. I
can do so no longer. Your most recent post (copy below) speaks very clearly
of your feelings and attitude. MDC is not your community and posts of this
nature are of no community benefit. In fact such words are destructive and
insulting to a community such as ours.

Best wishes and good bye Jenny.

~Cynthia Mosher
Administrator, MDC
www.mothering.com

Your post:
Mommiska,

The great lie has started. I thought it would come after the election, but
with your post, I think we can safely say it is here. What is this lie?

"we were for the freedom of the Iraqui people all along. We always wanted
them to have the rights of self determination. We just didn't want anyone to
die in the process. We have always been willing to do whatever it took to
support freedom, after all, we are liberals. We are for free speech.
etc.etc.etc...."

This is what I think about the various anti-war threads that have been the
bulk of this board for as long as I have been here.

When president Bush said right after 9-11 "you are either for us or against
us, you either stand with tyranny or you stand with freedom, I took him at
his word. I have never thought the war was about oil profits or Halliburton.
This war was America drawing a line in the sand and simply saying we claim
the right to defend ourselves, to defend our financial interests, to defend
our people, and to defend liberty.

This was a strong stance and it offended lots of people. When the anti-war
demonstrations were taking place in the lead up to the war in Iraq, Sadaam
and all his cohorts in tyranny were watching very closely. They felt they
had the will of the people with them.

When in fact what they had with them were those countries who had a
financial stake in the status quo with them, and a whole lot of gullible
demonstrators who were being organized by Communists, and didn't even know
it, and who were acting as the useful idiots that tyrants like Sadaam have
used so successfully over the ages.

I have been thinking all morning of a way to illustrate how I see the people
on this board who have a compulsion to share all the bad news every day, day
in and day out, pointing out all mistakes, all mis-steps, all the tragic
deaths, etc etc... And for the record, I have been quite aware of all of the
bad news. And I mourn with the families of both Iraquis and Americans who
have lost loved ones....

The best analogy I can think of is that those who are so dutiful in pointing
out all the negatives of the war are like the Nobles in Braveheart.

These fair weather traitors who would stand in the middle of Tyranny and
Freedom. Who lived comfortably off the sweat and blood of the peasants,
would place themselves front and center in the grey area between Freedom and
Slavery, and whichever way the wind was blowing they would turn, attempting
to gain a measure of fame, comfort, and ease while those who understood the
cost of Freedom did the actual fighting. They were happy to betray when it
was in their own best interests.

Think of that scene in Braveheart when Wallace loses his faith and hope in
the fight. He holds up the flag to call in the nobles calvalry, and they
turn and walk away....just walk away. And thousands were slaughtered. I'll
never forget the look on Wallace's face in that moment of the movie. Mel
Gibson captured it perfectly. It was utter astonishment, and disbelief that
such a betrayal could take place.

A similar betrayal took place in Viet Nam when our soldiers walked away and
2 million Cambodians were murdered. John Kerry had said it would be maybe
5,000. No it was 2,000,000 people.

Now as you nobles go about your business of playing it down the middle, or
walking both sides of tyranny and freedom, just know that I know who you
are. When you feel the temptation to say after the election..."well this is
what I wanted all along" just know, that I will be watching, and will know
who you are in your heart.

Unless if you are willing right now today, to stand and be counted before
the Iraqui election and say, "I was wrong. I wish I had seen it more
clearly. I am sorry for the lives my stance cost. I am sorry for the blood
on my treasonous hands"

Unless if you are willing to courageously stand and make this statement, do
not for one minute think you can have it both ways next week. Do not think
that you can write and post and add links and say, "Hey, I have always been
for the troops, I have just been against how it was done. Or, I was always
for Democracy, I just didn't want anyone to die, or I was always for
Freedom, I just wanted to sound like I knew something, and have my right to
say something stupid and ineffective WITHOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY
WORDS..."

Just know that I understand who you are, Traitors, who have systematically
engaged in treasonous behavior and work during the war. As you have given
aid and comfort to the enemy during this time of war, know that I know in my
heart you have blood on your hands. You have enboldened our enemies during
the war. You have caused the death of innocent men, women, and children,
mostly from the country of Iraq who have been killed by terrorists who have
been working feverishly to kill the will of the American Populace at home.

They have not killed my will. They have not killed the will of our military,
and they Will not kill the will of this president. May God bless him for his
stance, for his clarity, for his willingness to stand strong.

And may those of you who toss hand grenades of disbelief, sarcasm, and
pompous Nobility slunk away to your latte's and your porn and your secular
humanistic nothing......the world is ACHING for freedom and some of us are
willing to fight for it. I am not a soldier, but I would be willing for my
children to fight in this war, and die in this war. And if you were to use
my child's blood for your own selfish Noble stance and I saw you in person I
would spit in your eye.

I cringe for any of you who may come in contact with a true patriot mother
whose child has died. They hold you and every contemptuous position you
promote in complete horror and dread. You who willfully rebel against the
truth. I hope you can have the humbling experience of meeting up with one of
these mother's one day so you can begin to understand the wrongs that you
have committed all in the name of supposedly standing for a moral position.

Your morality is nothing. It is a great big wind bag full of nothing. And
again, as you prepare to put on the mask of "but I was for this all
along...in the coming weeks and month....just know, I hold you all in
complete contempt as an enemy to freedom.

Jenny