Posted on 03/16/2005 10:25:18 AM PST by BurbankKarl
Kerbeck and Bruce Gluek (is he still alive??) are two of the best.
But it's pretty sad when you use the Chevy.com website and get with error messages instead of *dealer* price quotes (the *factory* sticker quote part of their website works fine, though).
Not to mention they finally moved big into the SUV market 10 years plus behind Ford, just in time to see gas prices drive it all into the ground. Bad timing.
Kerbeck?
Did you buy it from that girl in their ads?
(Interesting thread on blaming the poor economy on everything from health care to the price of tea in China.)
That's Vicki! she is older then the picture in that ad.
No kidding!
You got that right. GM does not stand for good merchandise.
50 miles to the quart of oil
Aluminum cylider walls. Who would do that? Only GM.
Right on....methinks GM will survive : )
How about the 4-6-8 Caddy, Or the diesel 350 conversion : )
I see that picture every week in automotive news...she did look younger in the 90s....I remember when they cornered the marketing on Syclones and Typhoons.
Yes, but the delivery is polished.
And outsourcing.. People gotta be makin money to be able to spend it.
It reminded me of an egg.
You're dead wrong. People have been spending more money on cars every year. There is no lack of automobile buyers - people don't want to buy GM cars because they are far too expensive compared to other, better vehicles made by competitors.
People are making money and they are spending it wisely on well-built foreign cars that are superior in every way to GM cars.
If the UAW did not exist, GM could build cars much more efficiently right here in the US, like Nissan does in AL and BMW does in SC.
The UAW is destroying GM.
No, the UAW is a variable. What's destroying GM is the union, plus outsourcing plus the free trade crap that set the trade imbalznce in motion that is and has been undermining the US market little bits at a time. If there were an even playing field for US auto makers in America, GM would still be selling volume in Cars. As it is now, they can't compete because on an uneven playing field, the union now handicaps them completely. Free trade is nothing more than an unmasked all out offensive against the working class.
Do you subscribe to The Nation or something?
There is no "working class" in America any more than there is a "landed gentry" in this country. Marxist class analysis is about as applicable to our current situation as phrenology.
Americans who work for a living are not a "class" - they are 94% of the population.
I wonder why the GOP thinks a nation of poor destitute people will vote GOP? GOP policies of killing jobs and wealth production in the USA is going to be mean the permeate end of the GOP
GM.. switch to catastrophic care plans for your workers and self insure up to the cap... If GM put 5k per employee into an account for health care use, and insured only after the 5k was spent... (and what wasn't spent on the 5k is rolled over every year) you'd wind up cutting your recurring costs by 70 to 80%.... yes, up front cost is there, but long term return is there....
This is basically what we are going to be doing sooner or later anyway, why not be the first mover on the block?
What planet do you live on?
Yep; but, apparently to avoid that, some feel the need to distract with wierdness posing for useful discussion.
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