Were we wrong about Bill Clinton?

Mar 8,2005

[swampfx]

http://alamo-girl.com/0361.htm

[Cosmo]

LOL! My wife's 85 year-old grandmother is constantly lecturing me on the "Illuminati". It's gotten to the point that I just concoct conspiracy theories as I talk to her and she just nods and nods, with an occasional, "you're absolutely right!" She's a loyal Republican and was even presented with a plaque for outstanding service by the NJ chapter of the GOP...Which frankly just scares me.

[DTA]

>>>>>>>>Bill Clinton will be judged by history<<<<<<<<<<<

Already has.

[CitizenM]

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" Yep, that about sums it up, in politics, business, and world affairs when possible.

[LdSentinal]

Maybe if republicans had spent time on something other than chasing him around the capital with a stained blue dress he could have paid more attention to Bin Laden.

He seemed to have plenty of time weakening our military and intelligence services, impose PC rules in law enforcement, and bomb aspirin factories and the crap out of Serbia. Perhaps if Bin Laden was a piece of ass, Clinton would have nailed him.

Nobody wanted 9-11, and sadly neiter side saw it coming

Excuse me, but the WTC was attacked in February of 1993. Perhaps if Bin Laden was white, Clinton would have got him.

[Zivasmate]

Thank you, I think.

If all this is true, am I must convince myself that it is, this wasn't the Clinton Administration - it was the Clinton Family.

[Osage Orange]

As others have...and no doubt will suggest...

Look up some of FReeper Alamo-girl and Mia T epic posts.

Welcome,

[Osage Orange]

Maybe if republicans had spent time on something other than chasing him around the capital with a stained blue dress he could have paid more attention to Bin Laden.

Oh brother..!

[A.A. Cunningham]

Admiral Boorda participated in combat operations in Southeast Asia and was awarded two “V” devices for medals he received related to combat operations.

Incorrect. Despite the Zumwalt, Clinton, Dalton, Boorda family spin to the contrary, Jeremy Boorda was not entitled to wear the Combat "V" on either the Navy Achievement Medal or Navy Commendation Medal. Quit perpetuating the myth that he was.

[FreeInWV]

There is no question about the good things that Bush has done.

My concern is the number of law abiding folks I personally know that have been persecuted by the ATF after Clinton left office. That particular agency seems to have moved on from the national lawmaking arena to intimidating and ruining the lives of common men. I talked to one such man this afternoon. It was pretty sad.

[CIB-173RDABN]

The rehabilitation of the impeached Clinton effects reputationof the next likely democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton, in my opinion.

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Contemporaries make poor historians, we all have too much invested in our beliefs.

When I say he will be judged by history, I am talking at least a hundred years down the road when everyone (or almost everyone) alive today is gone.

I have come to the conclussion that we (conservatives) hurt ourselves by spending so much energy on the Clintons (sort of what the Democrats are doing today against President Bush).

Do I think Clinton was a bad President? Yes.

Do I think Clinton committed crimes while President? Yes.

Do I think Clinton should have been forced out of office? Again, yes.

But we went at it the wrong way. I am beginning to think we were played like a cheap violin. The Clintons, and their supporters did some polictical ju jitsu on us, and tossed us all over the mat.

But you know what, they are gone. I do not fear the Clintons (and I include Hillary) their days are over.

I belive President Bush has shown us how to respond to our critics, smile, embrace them, do not climb down into the gutter with them, keep and eye on the goal and just keep working towards the finish line.

I do not "hate" Democrats, I simply disagree with what they stand for.

[hershey]

No, we weren't wrong, but the present administration feels that nothing admirable would be attained by driving home Clinton's crimes. It would expose the country to shame, humiliation, and in effect, cheapen the office of the President. That's the thinking behind see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. For some reason, democrats have no problem with cheapening the Presidency, no matter who is in office.

[swampfx]

Incorrect. Despite the Zumwalt, Clinton, Dalton, Boorda family spin to the contrary, Jeremy Boorda was not entitled to wear the Combat "V" on either the Navy Achievement Medal or Navy Commendation Medal. Quit perpetuating the myth that he was.

Years after Admiral Boorda was awarded his two "V" devices, the Navy Regulations for awards and decorartions were revised to include a specific wording in awards in order for the receipient to wear the "V" device.

It was never the intent of the revision to go back and yank away all the "V" devices awarded because the citations did not include wording from a revision that did not exist at the time of the award.

[coloradan]

Let's not forget the TWA800 shootdown and coverup, and the OKC bombing and coverup, including the suspicious deaths of Terrence Yeakey and others. The Waco massacre and coverup, including the fact that all for BATF agents killed in the initial raids were former Clinton bodyguards, and the suspcious deaths of four people who were going to testify at Burton's sham Waco investigation years later, including the first Texas Ranger on the scene, and the FLIR expert who was convinced that the flashes seen on the Waco FLIR tape were, in fact, gunfire. (Carlos Ghigliotti) It just goes on and on and on.

[coloradan]

but the present administration feels that nothing admirable would be attained by driving home Clinton's crimes

Bringing criminals to justice?

[uncbob]

What I don’t understand is why President Bush now embraces a man I once thought was a rapist, complicit in murder, and a man that sold weapons technology to communist China for campaign contributions.

That makes at least TWO of us

[Mudboy Slim]

"I thought I understood the reason President Bush would not prosecute Bill Clinton for his many crimes. What I don’t understand is why President Bush now embraces a man I once thought was a rapist, complicit in murder, and a man that sold weapons technology to communist China for campaign contributions. Were we wrong about Bill Clinton?"

No, Dubyuh and his Daddy are WRONG to assist in the re-legitimization of Slick Willie today...MUD

[uncbob]

I do not "hate" Democrats, I simply disagree with what they stand for

I hate them and what they stand for You can't separate the TWO

[Right_in_Virginia]

The rehabilitation of the impeached Clinton effects reputationof the next likely democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton, in my opinion.

This is my concern, too.

[Wallace T.]

Both Democrats and Republicans tend to govern from the center (which unfortunately has been moving towards ever more government intervention since the 1890s). Clinton's administration, especially after the Democratic electoral disaster in 1994, tended not to push the envelope on big spending programs or further pushing for homosexuals or women in the military. The current administration is performing deficit spending at a rate that far exceeds that of Clinton, due in part to war spending for Iraq. Except for the proposed Social Security reform, there has been no push for a conservative agenda.

Both parties are in essence the party of government and the republic is to a large extent an oligarchy with a democratic veneer. Seldom are there big shifts in Congress, unlike the parliamentary systems in multiparty nations like Israel or Italy. The interparty disputes involve the constituencies of the GOP and Democrats and their interests. Both parties find it in their respective interests to maintain confidence in the system and keep the large majority of the population quiescent. Assuming that Clinton was guilty of killing Vince Foster, Ron Brown, et. al. and receiving enormous bribes from Marc Rich, the Red Chinese, etc., a vigorous prosecution of the ex-president would weaken that confidence and undermine the quiescence of the population. Further, the entire Democratic Party and their MSM and entertainment allies, plus the unions, would "go to the mattresses" and Congress would virtually cease to function.

You don't need conspiracy theory to explain why the Bushes have done nothing about Clinton's apparent crimes, or for that matter, why Ken Starr went after Clinton on the relatively minor matter of lying under oath about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky.