[Zhangliqun]

Are you unaware of the discrimination, derision and destruction vented upon the vilified independent thinkers on this issue. The Constitution forbad establishment of religion...but we have one in the form of old fashioned darwinism-atheism.

There's not question that darwinists and atheists can be every bit as dogmatic as any (other) religious fanatic. I'm with you there.

But what does that have to do with the question I asked?

[shubi]

There is a difference between being dogmatic and knowing.

Science means knowledge. Creationism is just a scam.