Are you sure you're not metacognitive posting under a different name? Ichneumon posted the exact quotes he disagreed with and metacognitive is now pretending he didn't post it. Then following the usual program, he's now pretending that the conversation didn't happen.
You guys wonder why you can't get a fair hearing. It's because you refuse to engage in honest discourse. Your position requires you to repeatedly lie to everyone.
I post under my own name so you can be sure that any flames I deserve come to me. See my post at 208 if you want to my my real take regarding the Religion/darwin controversy.
The attempt by writers and would be social engineers to misapply the theoretical directions of evolutionary biology to attack the under-pinnings of western society is really the issue. Most scientists in the field just want to study and experiment, many of them think religion and evolution can fit together real fine....seeing evolution as as a process by which God weaves his magic.
But there are ax grinders who take evolution as a whole world view, and who are not necessarily scientists in the field,seek to remake society along Marxian utilitarian principles. They use Saul Alinsky type power principles to isolate, personalize, ridicule and demonize, those who disagree with their world view. These folks have set science and religion against one another when science and religion can really complement one another. (The earlist scientists and mathematicians, at least from the 1400's onward had religious world views or were influenced by them, these folks formed the theoretical frameworks that science now operates from.)
It's a cring shame really!