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To: Junior
"And evolutionists routinely deny that anything is ornamental. - DannyTN "You are such a brazen liar. Ever hear of "sexual selection?" - Junior

OK perhaps I over generalized. The reason I made that comment was due to the web search I made on male nipples to see if I overlooked anything. Most of the evolutionist explanations that explained that male nipples were becaused we evolved from lower animals that had them, started off with the statement that "They are not ornamental". (Search WebMD.com for male nipples).

How they can make such a blanket statement is beyond me.

Nevertheless, I stand corrected, and apparently evolutionists only reject male nipples as ornamental. Ornamental items can indeed be seen in much evolutionist work.

Although I am curious why evolutionists think ornamentation evolved as an aspect of sexual selection. It seems like brute strength and stamina would be preferred.

In other words.. If we were evolutionary products,
wouldn't we deem this...

attractive over this?....

231 posted on 03/09/2005 8:48:27 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
It seems ...

Speculation is free, and even scientists speculate. But hypotheses have to be tested against reality. In this case, what seems reasonable to you doesn't conform to reality. Doesn't in birds of paradise, either.

Generally it's more productive to start your speculation with what is, and work backwards to how it got that way.

236 posted on 03/09/2005 8:59:37 AM PST by js1138
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To: DannyTN

"Beauty" is indicative of health, and health is what individuals look for in mates -- hence our efforts to appear healthy (makeup, cosmetic surgery, cosmetic dental work) even if we are not.


258 posted on 03/09/2005 10:04:59 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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