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Milton Friedman: How to cure healthcare
Hoover Digest ^ | 2001 | Milton Friedman

Posted on 03/06/2005 1:59:25 AM PST by Dr. Marten

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To: Black Birch
What are the figures that are being bounced around other than the drug savings?

First year little savings. After that, it is up to the frugality of the employees to lower the costs.

41 posted on 03/06/2005 5:29:03 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: Dr. Marten
One thing that he failed to mention is that insurance companies have a vested interest in keeping medical expenses high. If they were to fight to lower expenses fewer people would need insurance (because they could pay for it on their own).

Fear is a great motivator for insurance and the insurance companies know it and try to ratchet up the costs to increase the fear.

The other problem is that the medical profession is virtually a monopoly. Most of what doctors do is prescribe pills and it generally doesn't take a medical degree to figure out the right pill for the ailment. Why should it be illegal for me to give myself a tetanus or penicillin shot and legal for diabetics to inject insulin?
42 posted on 03/06/2005 6:22:28 PM PST by LeGrande
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To: Dr. Marten
All insurance systems are socialized -- they are inherently designed to spread cost over membership. The only difference between private and national socialized insurance is that the one is voluntary (sort of, as M.F. points out, via tax incentives and disincentives), and the other compulsory. And the only difference in profit between private and national insurance is that the one goes into the insurer's coffers and the other to the taxman's.

Insurance may be a necessary evil, but it should only be for catastrophic circumstances, rather than for everyday costs. Otherwise, as is now, it's like Midas, and makes everything it touches as expensive as gold.



Nicollo unmasked: Bromleyisms here

43 posted on 03/06/2005 6:30:17 PM PST by nicollo
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My family is the type that pays out a lot more out in medical insurance than we ever get back. Which is fair to a point, since the insurance company is assuming my risk. We only go to the doctor once or twice a year, if that.

Anyway, I went to the ER on Christmas Day because I'd cut my finger bad enough to need stitches. Insurance covered most of the costs, no problem.

Last week I got a letter from my insurer demanding (yes, demanding) that I fill out a questionnaire. The questions weren't about the quality of the care I received - they wanted to make sure I wasn't going to collect any other insurance, or sue anybody and not give them a cut.

The most telling was a statement: "Do not ignore this obligation to your insurance company". Gosh, and here I though that I was the customer and my insurance company had obligations to me.

These outfits know that urgent care is beyond the means of most people, and treat them accordingly. We're not customers anymore, we're cattle and are accorded like treatment.

We need medical savings accounts NOW.


44 posted on 03/06/2005 7:11:16 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Dr. Marten

A very worthwhile essay. Thanks for posting it again.


45 posted on 03/06/2005 7:15:15 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Dr. Marten

I've got an idea.. we could further restrict the number of doctors allowed to train.

Also what other profession do you guys know where you need a doctorate to do routine jobs? Can you imagine if every car that was built, had to be specially designed by a doctorate of engineering? And the number of those doctorates was restricted by the state.

Can you imagine what cars would cost? Only the rich could afford them.. and those doctorates would live a privaleged life indeed...

Welcome to health care in America.


46 posted on 03/06/2005 7:22:21 PM PST by ran15
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To: LeGrande
The other problem is that the medical profession is virtually a monopoly. Most of what doctors do is prescribe pills and it generally doesn't take a medical degree to figure out the right pill for the ailment. Why should it be illegal for me to give myself a tetanus or penicillin shot and legal for diabetics to inject insulin?

Excellent question.

Medical care is expensive because the supply of health care professionals is insufficient to meet the demand. The supply of doctors is kept artificially low by the AMA's monopoly on accreditation of med schools and the restrictiveness of state licensing boards. In addition to this comes the high cost of medical education, which forces doctors into debt early, and the overhead costs of record keeping, admin, and malpractice insurance.

The fact is that most people do not need the services of a licensed M.D. for everyday sneeze & sniffle care. For everyday care of healthy adults and children the expertise of an RN and a PA are more than sufficient. Therefore, the federal government should take steps to force state licensure boards to allow RNs, PAs, and EMTs greater latitude in practice. Allowing these providers to prescribe drugs, perform basic exams, treat common illnesses, and provide general care on a strict cash-and-carry basis in a clinical setting would dramatically lower costs. Why pay $200/hour for the services of an M.D. when you really only need the $50/hour services of an RN? In my scenario, these health care service providers would be based in neighborhood clinics which would be the ordinary person's most frequent point of contact with the medical profession. There, the RNs and PAs would provide outpatient care for everyday ailments, with a team of EMTs on call for ER support and a licensed M.D. supervisor on call at the local hospital to handle more serious cases (broken bones, infectious disease, surgery, etc.) Such clinics would replace the local ER as the primary health care provider for the average person. The state government could fund and administer a malpractice insurance pool to protect the providers. Since the overhead would be low and the treatment limited to routine care, costs would be far lower than those of a huge hospital or a multi-doctor practice. With no insurance papers to file, these clinics would furthermore have no need for admin staff, thus further lower costs.

The high cost of medical education is another barrier to inexpensive health care. The solution is to increase the number of medical schools by breaking the AMA's grip on accreditation. Another is to create a national health care education system at the federal level to allow those unable to pay for med school to become doctors. My idea would work like this: Congress would create and fund the United States Medical Service Corps as a division of the Public Health Service. This Corps would operate a United States Medical Academy -- a uniformed service academy similar to Annapolis or West Point -- to which talented high school students could apply. If accepted, the students would become cadets at the academy for four years, at which time they would receive a Bachelor of Science degree and a commission as Health Service Officers in the Public Health Service. From there, the Health Service Officers would proceed to a four-year term of service with the PHS, either as students (in medical school), as RNs, PAs, or EMTs in residency at various federal health care facilities. These officers would train and serve internships wherever needed for those four years while earning the same pay as their military grade counterparts. At the end of four years of service, the officers (now fully-licensed MDs, RNs, or PAs, or EMTs) would be free to reenlist and continue to serve in the PHS or leave the service and begin private practice free of debt. In other words, the government would train and educate hundreds of doctors, nurses, and other health care professionals free of charge in exchange for at least four years of public service. This, I think, would be an effective use of taxpayer dollars.

Indigent care is our most serious health care problem. Friedman does not address how MSAs would solve the problem created by the vast numbers of illegal immigrants with no insurance and no money in this country who have turned our county hospital ERs into basic healthcre providers. My solution to this problem would be a voucher system funded by the state; any legal resident or citizen below the poverty line would be issued a Health Service Card. This swipe card would be "charged" with a certain amount of money every year and would be honored by any health care provider. This would allow indigent patients to use their neighborhood clinics for routine care instead of swamping the ER at County General as they do now. By using a swipe card, the need for admin staff would be near nil; the transaction would be 100% digital. For this system to work, we would of course need to institute a system of national citizen/legal resident ID -- which is one more reason to have such a system. Those persons with no legal right to be here would not receive a state health card; instead, they would be detained by Immigration police, transported to a Federal facility for treatment, and eventually deported.

Health care cannot be treated on a strict commodity basis; the risk of infectious disease is too great to allow people with no money to go without medical care. Besides, people with no cash or insurance are not simply going to squat on a toadstool and quietly watch their children suffer and die when a big, shiny hospital is sitting down the block. By allowing more people (RNs, PAs, and perhaps pharmacists) to provide everyday health care and advice, we can increase supply relative to demand and slash health care costs. By creating a Federal medical service, we can offer poor but talented youths an opportunity to gain a medical education in exchange for their service to the nation. And by establishing state-run risk pools for malpractice insurance and by instituting a digital voucher system for indigent care, we can further control the cost of providing basic health care, and free our public hospitals of the burden of providing basic care for indigents and/or illegal aliens, while making sure that health care services are available to all regardless of ability to pay.

47 posted on 03/06/2005 8:11:23 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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I heartily agree with your solution except that I don't think that the government needs to create a Medical Corp. Letting Nurses, EMT's and responsible people write prescriptions and treat minor medical problems would probably solve the shortage all by itself.

I am curious. Does anyone know the top ten reasons people go to the doctor? My guess is that is for trivial stuff that any competent nurse could handle
48 posted on 03/06/2005 8:46:17 PM PST by LeGrande
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You are dead on my friend. Can you imagine if you took your car to the mechanics shop.. but had to see someone with a 10 year doctorate in mechanical engineering to diagnose it, and order the say new tire?

I bookmarked a study that looked at how much money could be saved, without sacrficing any care by letting experienced nurses deal with the simple problems..

Most professions you have people with a few years training dealing with the routine problems. Then when that doesn't solve the problem it goes to the next level.. the 4 year degree holders. Then in the rare case that still doesn't solve it, it goes to a research doctorate.

I know in electrical engineering, the technicians can handle 97% of the issues...

Being VERY conservative the study on nursing found they could handle 80% of the issues, at 40% of the cost. While getting rid of waiting times.

Guess who came out against that study?


49 posted on 03/06/2005 9:42:54 PM PST by ran15
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To: Bitwhacker

I agree with you that Friedman DID ignore half of the problem of huge increases, but I suspect that he relies on the consumer to rethink the cost of defensive medicine if they were paying the bills themselves, and that doctors would be able to demand from the patient a release if they weren't willing to undergo such a procedure after being properly advised.


50 posted on 03/06/2005 10:38:19 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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