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Same-sex issuing dividing church (Anglicans, Episcopalians in schism over pro-gay agenda)
The London Free Press (Canada) ^ | Tue, March 1, 2005 | Rory Leishman

Posted on 03/04/2005 8:51:22 AM PST by GMMAC

Same-sex issuing dividing church

THE LONDON FREE PRESS
Tue, March 1, 2005

By Rory Leishman

Following last week's closed-door meeting of Anglican primates in Northern Ireland, Archbishop Andrew Hutchison, primate of the Anglican Church of Canada, told the Anglican Journal he had feared the gathering would expel the Anglican Church of Canada and the Episcopal Church of the United States from the worldwide Anglican Communion.

As it is, the primates stopped just short of declaring an outright schism by requesting that the Canadian and United States churches "voluntarily withdraw their members from the Anglican Consultative Council for the period leading up to the next Lambeth Conference (in 2008)." The council is a representative body of the 38 provinces of the Anglican Communion that provides advice on church policy.

Bishop Michael Ingham of the Diocese of New Westminster helped bring on this crisis of unity in 2002 by authorizing a blessing rite for same-sex couples. In 2003, the Episcopal bishops in the United States aggravated matters by consecrating as bishop of New Hampshire Gene Robinson, a man who had left his wife and children to live in a conjugal union with another man.

In taking these actions, Ingham and the U.S. bishops violated the teachings of the church as reaffirmed by the Lambeth Conference of bishops in 1998 that Christians are obligated to display compassion and concern for homosexuals, yet insist that sexual intercourse should be confined within marriage between a man and a woman.

In an attempt to hold the diverse Anglican Communion together, Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, appointed a special Lambeth Commission on Communion. In October, the commission asked Ingham and the U.S. bishops to express regret for their actions. Ingham and Griswold have refused to comply. In November, Hutchison said: "If two people want their relationship blessed, I don't have a problem with that. This isn't same-sex marriage; that's not on the radar screen. All we're talking about is just blessing same-sex relationships."

Is that right? In a report to Ralph Spence, the Bishop of Niagara, on Feb. 1, Canon Peter Scott of St. Mark's, Orangeville, observed: "Looking down the road, I think that the Anglican Church of Canada will allow for a local option to perform same-sex marriage and this, for me, would not be a reason to leave." In arriving at this flexible position, Scott was no doubt mindful that in November, the diocese of Niagara approved the blessing of same-sex unions.

Meanwhile, the orthodox primates have invited representatives of the Anglican Church of Canada and the Episcopal Church of the United States to a special meeting of the Anglican Consultative Council in June to set out the thinking behind the divisive actions of their churches. The Archbishop of Canterbury has warned that avoiding a split in the church "will require people somewhere along the line to say, 'Yes, we were wrong.' "

Will Hutchison and Griswold admit they were wrong?

That's doubtful.

While Griswold has reiterated his view that the ordination of Robinson was "right and proper," Hutchison has shown no sign of backing away from his support for an unprecedented resolution of the Canadian General Synod last June which affirmed "the integrity and sanctity of committed adult same-sex relationships."

Nine orthodox Canadian Bishops promptly denounced this extraordinary resolution as "contrary to the teaching of Scripture and the tradition of the undivided church, the clearly expressed conviction of the Anglican Communion at the Lambeth Conference of 1998, the overwhelming ecumenical consensus of the church inside Canada and abroad, and the 1997 guidelines of our own House of Bishops."

Clearly, the Anglican Church of Canada is a house divided. While the majority of bishops have conformed their thinking to current fashion of the world, the minority are determined to think with the eternal mind of Christ so that they might know what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

What will happen if, as Hutchison fears, the Anglican Church of Canada is expelled from the Anglican Communion? Faithful Anglicans in the pews can only hope and pray that the nine remaining orthodox bishops will help found a new Anglican Church in Canada dedicated to upholding the love and truth of Christ in continuing communion with the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anglican; canada; ecusa; episcopalian; fallout; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; samesexmarriage; schism
"Too little, too late!"
When it comes to blatant apostacy, years of dithering isn't the appropriate response - a former Anglo-Catholic now in full Communion with Rome.
1 posted on 03/04/2005 8:51:27 AM PST by GMMAC
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To: GMMAC

EPISCOPAL PRIMATE?.....

2 posted on 03/04/2005 8:53:29 AM PST by Red Badger (The South seceded over refusal to end slavery. Blue states want to secede for the same reason......)
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To: sionnsar

FYI


4 posted on 03/04/2005 8:56:10 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: GMMAC

I bet the divide isn't anywhere close to 50-50.


5 posted on 03/04/2005 8:57:56 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: GMMAC

The Lutheran Church (ELCA) needs to be added to the long list of churches that either are or will be thrown into crisis by the aggressiveness of gay right advocates.


6 posted on 03/04/2005 8:58:02 AM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Red Badger
For your edification and increase in vocabulary:

Main Entry: pri'mate
Pronunciation: *pr*-*m*t or esp for 1 -m*t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English primat, from Old French, from Medieval Latin primat-, primas archbishop, from Latin, leader, from primus
Date: 13th century

1 often capitalized : a bishop who has precedence in a province, group of provinces, or a nation
2 archaic : one first in authority or rank : LEADER

3 [New Latin Primates, from Latin, plural of primat-, primas] : any of an order (Primates) of mammals comprising humans, apes, monkeys, and related forms (as lemurs and tarsiers)
-pri'mate-ship \-*ship\ noun
--pri-ma'tial \pr*-*m*-sh*l\ adjective

7 posted on 03/04/2005 9:11:25 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: GMMAC

The conservatives seem to have fallen for the traditional liberal trick of delaying until they can arrange to get the result they want.


8 posted on 03/04/2005 9:11:29 AM PST by PAR35
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To: ahadams2; pharmamom; Vicomte13; TaxRelief; Huber; Roland; ladyinred; Siamese Princess; ...
Thanks to ken5050 for spotting this.

Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams.

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this moderately high-volume ping list (typically 3-7 pings/day).
This list is pinged by sionnsar and newheart.

Resource for Traditional Anglicans: http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com

Speak the truth in love. Eph 4:15

9 posted on 03/04/2005 9:12:37 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: GMMAC
They can dance all they want, there is no middle ground. The bible is either the inerrant word of God or it isn't. If it is, which I believe is the case, the church can decide to lead its congregants to its author or to its opponent.

I know where I want to kneel.
10 posted on 03/04/2005 9:14:06 AM PST by wmfights
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To: ex-Texan

Last I heard, the ELCA hierarchy issued yet another official sidestep on the sexuality issue in order to keep the denomination from experiencing severe collection-plate hemorrhaging. Look for the Missouri Synod to pick up ELCA Lutherans who still read their Bibles.


11 posted on 03/04/2005 9:22:19 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: GMMAC

There seems to be quite a few of us. Perhaps we will see entire nations return to Rome such as Uganda.


12 posted on 03/04/2005 9:26:31 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...

"Faith & Family" ping


13 posted on 03/04/2005 9:33:07 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC

"a former Anglo-Catholic now in full Communion with Rome"

Come on in! The water's terrible!


14 posted on 03/04/2005 9:36:02 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Tibikak ishkwata!)
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To: GMMAC
1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
2For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
4traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
5having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
- 2 Timothy 3:1-5

1 "Woe to the rebellious children," says the LORD,
"Who take counsel, but not of Me,
And who devise plans, but not of My Spirit,
That they may add sin to sin;
- Isaiah 30:1

15 posted on 03/04/2005 9:51:41 AM PST by Dr. Thorne
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To: GMMAC

If only they had cajones.


16 posted on 03/04/2005 10:17:07 AM PST by youngtory (Rights are rights are rights. Just like a proof is a proof is a proof.-Liberal dorks.)
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To: GMMAC

thanx


17 posted on 03/04/2005 4:55:31 PM PST by altura (tolerance is an overrated virtue.)
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To: GMMAC

=== Gene Robinson, a man who had left his wife and children to live in a conjugal union with another man.


You've lost the war if you go to battle using words like "conjugal union" to describe homosexual relationships.


18 posted on 03/04/2005 11:02:51 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5
Knowing the author fairly well, I suspect he was merely taking "the high road" and attempting a description of the unnatural relationship in question which avoided tackiness and (or) vulgarity.

Trust me, Rory harbors no illusions as to any aspect of the gay agenda.
19 posted on 03/05/2005 9:06:56 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC

I didn't get the impression he did ... far from it.

But it's odd, is it not, that a society as consumed with sex as is ours has only the one word with which to describe all manner of wholly disparate sexual acts. "Anal sex" being one of the most appallingly common distortions at work today thanks to the increasingly homosexual conditioning of the American male through porn.

You would think we'd have as many "real words" for sexual acts as the Eskimos have for snow.


(The vulgarity and slang to which for-profit "Free Speech" has accustomed all being little more than the inarticulate grunting of the so-called Enlightened and Liberated Naked Ape.)


20 posted on 03/05/2005 9:24:08 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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