New Federal ID Standard Approved

Government Computer News ^ | 2/25/05 | William Jackson

[Dat Mon]

The Commerce Secretary today approved the Federal Information Processing Standard for Personal Identity Verification, starting the clock for agencies to implement common smart card-based ID cards. FIPS 201 lays out the technical and operational requirements for the PIV system and card. The Homeland Security Presidential Directive that mandated the card requires agencies to have the access systems in place, “to the maximum extent practicable,” by Oct. 25. Meeting that deadline is likely to be a challenge. “I don’t think its going to be possible for most agencies to continue doing business as usual and comply,” said Jim Dray of the National Institutes of Standards and Technology. HSPD 12 was issued Aug. 27, 2004, calling for NIST to produce a federal standard for secure and reliable forms of identification for federal employees and contractors within six months. Computer security specialists at NIST said recently that preparing such a standard generally is a two-year process. The presidential directive called for a fraud-resistant card that could be authenticated electronically. Agencies have until June 25 to submit a program to the Office of Management and Budget for compliance with the standard....

[Dat Mon]

Although this is going to be required for all government workers and contractors, I think it makes sense to require this type of ID for ALL guests to this country.

Note the use of photo ID ALONG with expandible biometric data.

Any guest worker bill which does not have provisions for this type of security device, paid for by the participating companies is not going far enough in security, IMHO.

[buffyt]

Big Brother
1984
Revelations
NO THANKS!

[RadioAstronomer]

I have smart card IDs now. No big deal. Glad I have them, great for security.

[7.62 x 51mm]

Here it comes.

[JustAnotherSavage]

" I think it makes sense to require this type of ID for ALL guests to this country."

Agreed. The green cards they issue are to too many criminals, gangs, etc. and there are too many forged ones out there.

[lnbchip]

I am a stauch supporter of the guest worker legislation. However, I am also in absolute agreement with you on the use of this type of technology for identification. It only makes sense to me to use the guest worker legislation to get a handle on who exactly is now here working in the US. And even more important, use this opportunity to use biometric data to put a big dent in the blackmarket ID economy and have a great record from here forward of who these people are.

[Dat Mon]

Hate to tell you...but lots of people already subject themselves to this and alot more...when they get high security clearances.

Its SOP for dealing with critical government stuff.

[buffyt]

I know THEY do, I DON'T. And no computer chip injected into me, either. Call me old fashioned... I don't care... I am used to it. Read The World's Last Dictator and The Illuminati....

[buffyt]

I know THEY do, I DON'T. And no computer chip injected into me, either. Call me old fashioned... I don't care... I am used to it. Read The World's Last Dictator and The Illuminati....

[Dat Mon]

Who said anything about injectable chips? Im not in favor of that.

Note that this card is NOT a national ID nor should it be used to track and monitor American citizens in their day to day activities. THAT is big brother.

ID cards are used when American citizens with clearances seek access to government property or facilities.

To non citizens...the entire country should be considered fderal government property.

[Tacis]

The regulations also have to be written in Spanish so the river swimming, criminal Mexican illegal aliens can begin forging their own cards.

It got very little notice in the old-timey media but Dallas, Texas seized material at 15 document forging locations over the weekend that turned out BEAUTIFUL fakes of Texas and California drivers' licenses and Social Security cards. One of the Hispanic types that ran one of the businesses and who appeared on the local news claimed that he had no idea that there was anything wrong with selling these documents. The police arrested NO ONE but are evaluating whether arrests will be made.

Why would a criminal Mexican alien need three to five different sets of ID?

Some left wing judge will rule that ASKING for ID from some one who LOOKS Hispanic is racial profiling or some such nonsense. What is wrong with W on this; what motivates his truely dumb position on defending the border?

[verity]

"And no computer chip injected into me, either"

You forgot about that alien anal probe.

[Unknown Freeper]

bump for later discussion

[NetValue]

That does not sound like a good proposal.

[Dat Mon]

Just so you know...I am opposed to ALL guest workers on general economic / political principles...but thats another matter.

However, IF we are going to have any guest worker bill which means something, it must satisfy your criteria. Further, in order to insure that it does, my requirements are that these types of security issues, along with effective border security and employer enforcement regulations and logistics must be in place BEFORE any guest worker bill is introduced.

In addition, we must also have some reforms of our present welfare and entitlement systems.

Otherwise, using the laws of unintended consequences, you are going to create the antithesis of what you desire in a society, along with a security nightmare.

[Dat Mon]

Try to read some of the other replies before you post...like my post #10 above.

[expatpat]

Now you've done it! You'll bring out all the tinfoil folks, now.

[Dat Mon]

"You'll bring out all the tinfoil folks, now."

I should have included in my keywords...
Art Bell
Area 51
the pyramids

[AFreeBird]

Any guest worker bill which does not have provisions for this type of security device, paid for by the participating companies is not going far enough in security,

Of course it won't be enough. In order for your guest working ID to truely work, you'd have to be able to cross check against ALL natural born and naturalized citizens.

National ID coming to a person near you.