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1 posted on 02/24/2005 12:00:03 AM PST by amdgmary
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Ping.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 12:00:55 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: amdgmary
We have a duty to protect someone from being killed against their will. This not a "right to die" case where someone's hooked up to a machine and wrote a living will specifying no heroic measures be taken to extend their lives or they want to be made comfortable as much as possible in their final days. This is about allowing someone to kill another human being with the full blessing of the state. I submit its absolutely unacceptable in America and must not be allowed to set a precedent.

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

3 posted on 02/24/2005 12:04:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: amdgmary
I had an interesting thought after reading this month's National Geographic's cover story.

The story is about the new advances in studying the inner workings of the mind via functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI). Today, it is technically possible to visualize what is happening in one's mind whilst an event is occuring.

The article explains how receptors in the brain are recorded in near-comatose patients. The results show that when a family member tells a story regarding a memorable instance, the patients' brain activity jumps off the charts.

I'm sure that Terri's would also...

4 posted on 02/24/2005 12:15:40 AM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: amdgmary
Isn't it bizarre that liberals fight almost to the death to
save vicious killers from death row but pull out all stops
to starve this poor woman, who has done nothing wrong, to
death?

If anything, shouldn't it be the other way around?
5 posted on 02/24/2005 12:44:49 AM PST by cliff630 (cliff630 (Didn't Pilate ask Christ, "What is the Truth." Even while looking in the face of TRUTH))
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To: amdgmary
but there are limits to what any particular person -- irrespective of the title they currently hold -- can do

Unless that Person is God

6 posted on 02/24/2005 12:51:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: amdgmary
it "reeks of the intervention of politics into the case and is an affront to the court."

All we need now is to hear Felos start to address Greer as "Your Majesty"

9 posted on 02/24/2005 12:53:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: amdgmary

"George Felos, the lead attorney for Michael, criticized the Bush administrations latest efforts saying it "reeks of the intervention of politics into the case and is an affront to the court."

And what does Felos and Michael's efforts reek of?


13 posted on 02/24/2005 2:10:17 AM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: amdgmary

Look how far our legal system has fallen in this age of abortion.

Twenty years ago, just twenty years ago, it would have been scandalous for a hospital to stop doing everything it could to keep someone alive. People being on life support for decades was not uncommon.

Now we have a case where a woman is obviously responsive, as any view of the videos of her show, but is merely bed ridden and cant feed herself.

She can stay alive without a breathing machine or any extraordinary measures, but is dependent on feeding tubes alone.

This dehumanizes her into a nonperson whose spouse can have starved to death?

Were Michael, her husband, trying to do this to a lame pet dog, he would have been jailed a long time ago and the dog removed from his care.

But since this is a helpless human being, and the wacko murder advocates want their pound of flesh, she less right to life than a lame dog. The logic of Roe v Wade proceedes unslowed by the success of the Conservative movement.

Bhis is a proverbial 'canary in the mine' case.

If the legal system allows this woman to be murdered through starvation, one of the worst ways of dying imaginable, then our legal system is in crisis.

If the life of a helpless woman is so unworthy of consideration because she married the wrong man and is now dependent on him to keep her alive then the criteria for any of us to be isolated from society and starved to death is established.

If our legal system has become so bound to the mere letter of the law that it will allow a woman to be murdered in this horrific way in cold blood by a callous husband and a conniving judge, then it is a legal system damned, steeped in evil disregard for human life beyond any recognition of that which is good.

Any of us can have access to stores of food removed from us, it does not require a feeding tube, but only a camp, or restricting access to food stores with armed guards like Stalin did.

The pretext for the isolation could be anything or any combination of reasons, like 'sensitivity training camps' for egregious hate crime offenders and for any imaginable legal reasons their supply of food is interupted. Lets say food shipments are interupted by a lawsuit, and the people left to starve, not *maliciously* underestand, but merely due to the entanglements of complicated law, and thousands or even tens of thousands allowed to starve to death as the courts drag their feet.

Of course those who prefer to not realize the logical possibilities will insist that I am deluded and paranoid. But the law is a cold and harsh thing left onits own, without the guidance of those who have a prevailing respect for human life to prevent the letter of the law from being used to end innocent human life.

According to the leftist murder advocates, a dog is entitled to more respect than a helpless woman.

Maybe Terry's family should press domestic violence charges on Michael and remove him from his protection?

This is a horrid case and this husband is scum and the judge is Satanic.

I would rather be governed by the student council at Bob Jones University than people like this judge (no offense to Bob Jones University for the comparison).


14 posted on 02/24/2005 2:25:30 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: amdgmary

Her husband is a real piece of work. All he cares about is himself. What he is trying to do amounts to murder. If he gets his way and removes the tube Terry will not die within a few minutes or hours. It will be several days and because of starvation. Obviously her brain is enough alive to help her breath and keep her heart beating. Maybe she can't express herself but what kind of pain might she feel if she is starved to death. I can't believe a judge can honestly go along with this. He ought to be removed from the chair because this kind of ruling you would have expected from the courts in Nazi Germany.

The husband should be removed from the picture because:

1) He is not acting like a husband. He's romantically involved with another woman and IMHO Terry is an inconvenience to him so he is trying to kill her to remove her from the picture. He could divorce her and let her parents take over her guardianship but that would cost money.

2) Terry's parents said they are more than willing to take over responsibility for Terry's care. Their feelings should be as important as the supposed spouse of Terry because they are the closest relative of Terry.

3) There is no living will which expresses Terry's desires in a situation such as this. All we have is the husband's word on this even though he is not acting like the loving husband he is trying to pretend he is.

4) Terry has rights just like anyone else. She deserves as much protection under the law as you or I deserve.

5) Terry's religious beliefs should have some sway here because the Catholic Church is pretty specific about removing feeding tubes in a situation like this.

I hope that Terry's parents win this one. I believe we're on the verge of a decision that could be as devisive as the Roe vs. Wade decision. You can't even equate this with Dr. Kevorkian's euthanasia practice because in Dr. Kevorkian's case the victims made the choice themselves. It wasn't made by someone who has serious conflict of interests involved. I hope at some point the Justice Department of either Florida or the US wakes up and sees that this is not a case of someone who is not loved and totally incapable of sustaining life but someone that has a family that loves her for who she is and would rather have her alive instead of dead and buried thus relieving them of any responsibility to her.


15 posted on 02/24/2005 3:13:12 AM PST by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: 1stFreedom
"I can assure you, I will do whatever I can within the means, within the laws, of our state to protect this woman's life," Bush said Wednesday. "I won't go beyond that."

Please show me state or federal law that allows Bush to send armed National Guard soldiers to the hospital to fend off anyone who comes near her?

18 posted on 02/24/2005 4:15:47 AM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: amdgmary

Taking someone off a respirator is one thing--exactly how is the media going to treat the circumstance of starving someone to death? That does not happen very fast.


23 posted on 02/24/2005 5:35:34 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: amdgmary

Wonder which life insurance company has insured Terry? They have a dog in this fight, too.


24 posted on 02/24/2005 5:37:07 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: amdgmary

BTTT!


25 posted on 02/24/2005 5:40:25 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: amdgmary

The Honorable Jeb Bush
Governor of Florida
FAX # 850-487-0801

Subject: Terri Schiavo

Dear Governor Bush:

Thank you for saving Terri’s life AGAIN!

Thank Goodness that you are stepping in to save Terri from another starvation/dehydration attempt on her life.

Terri has been subjected to neglect and abuse all these years and it was starting to look as if she and the Schindler’s were going to be subjected to yet another attempt to kill her.

What is Terri doing in a hospice in the first place? She’s not terminally ill. Isn’t that illegal?

As a woman, I am horrified that Michael Schiavo has been acting as if Terri is his personal property to be disposed of and toyed with according to his whims. Is this America?!

Thank you again for stepping in. Please let this be the last fight the Schindler’s will have to fight to save their daughter from a painful horrific torturous death.

God bless you.

Sincerely,



26 posted on 02/24/2005 5:43:38 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: amdgmary
"People with deep faith and big hearts are concerned, as I am about the circumstance that Ms. Schiavo is in," the governor continued. "I want them to know I will do what I can, but there are limits to what any particular person -- irrespective of the title they currently hold -- can do."

He means there are limits to what any person can legally do. This sounds to me like an admission that when any arm of the government can find a way to legally justify murder there is nothing that can be done to stop it or rather that no one in office will be willing to stop it.

An act of civil disobediance by a Governor would carry a lot more weight than a thousand average citizens defying the law.

Besides, the FL Constitution guarantees the protection of life for every citizen regardless of physical disability. Can the Governor allow a court to break that primal law on the basis of procedural inadequacies?

29 posted on 02/24/2005 7:01:10 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: amdgmary
The system has failed Terry for the last 15 years but I hope that it makes up for its mistakes by saving her life.The one thing most people want from this case are all the facts.Every medical report and x-ray should be looked at and investigated to see how Terry ended up in the condition she is now.They should also pursue every avenue of treatment that might help Terry regain part of her life.She deserves a chance to prove for herself that she wants to live and nobody should stand in her way.
46 posted on 02/24/2005 6:57:38 PM PST by rdcorso (We Are A Nation Fighting Against The Deadly Disease Of Liberalism)
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To: amdgmary; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; 8mmMauser; a5478; Annie03; atruelady; Brad's Gramma; Calpernia; ...

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


49 posted on 02/24/2005 8:34:13 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: amdgmary

Terri bump


55 posted on 02/24/2005 8:52:55 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: amdgmary

Though they were never investigated, because local authorities said they were too old to go into, DCF may be alleging that Michael abused Terri to cause the physical head trauma the scans displayed.

Terr is alleged to have made statements before the collapse to her family and friends that she was unhappy in her marriage, but Michael has denied hurting her.




Nail the *astard.


90 posted on 02/25/2005 7:56:32 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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