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Shadow workers
Press Enterprise ^ | 16FEB05 | Editorial

Posted on 02/16/2005 9:33:21 PM PST by 82Marine89

The United States has no business accommodating a permanent underclass of illegal workers, whose ranks have grown to at least 6 million. Problem is, the reform plan with the most momentum in D.C. would make an untenable situation worse.

The flawed AgJobs bill, first introduced in 2003, would cover no more than 10 percent of the illegal labor force. And it would grant those workers de facto amnesty, moving them ahead of legal immigrants who've obeyed the law in their quest to reach America. It would mock the orderly process of naturalization, when there are alternatives -- including other guest-worker proposals -- that could pull illegal workers from the shadows and still honor the rule of law.

The bill would let as many as 500,000 farmworkers gain temporary residency; and though their spouses and children could also live in the United States, the spouses couldn't find work legally -- which means many of them would become off-the-books employees.

The farmworkers could qualify for green cards in as little as six years, letting them crowd ahead of many who would immigrate legally, including family members of the physicians and engineers recruited by America's technology leaders.

Meantime, the millions of illegal workers who've found jobs in construction, landscaping, housekeeping, food service and hospitality would remain underground. But allowing an illegal work force to live permanently in the United States imposes budget-busting burdens on public services, from hospitals to schools. And it fosters disrespect for legitimate law-enforcement authority.

AgJobs has a filibuster-proof 63 Senate sponsors -- which makes it imperative for congressional leaders to expeditiously craft alternative legislation that meets the basic outline President Bush has endorsed: Let foreign workers in a variety of industries qualify for temporary employment if Americans won't fill the jobs; but amnesty should not be part of the deal.

The immigration status quo is not sustainable. But AgJobs offers the false promise of cheap, legal labor for one industry, leaving the majority of illegal workers to perpetuate an underground economy. Congress should start fresh with new legislation that honors the law and follows common sense.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agbill; aliens; amnesty; defactocitezenship; greencard; illegalimmigration; immigration; legalimmigration; politicians
Finally an honest view from the media.
1 posted on 02/16/2005 9:33:22 PM PST by 82Marine89
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To: HiJinx; Marine Inspector

PING


2 posted on 02/16/2005 9:34:45 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: 82Marine89

It also creates a huge, impoverished underclass, with all the attendent problems of crime, drugs, and general mischief.


3 posted on 02/16/2005 9:38:57 PM PST by djf
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To: djf

Those problems are already there, but the Police departments are not allowed to enforce our immigration laws. If they were, these people could be deported and maybe a dent could be made in the crime problem.


4 posted on 02/16/2005 9:42:32 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: 82Marine89

Yeah,...but "at least 6 million",???? Whoa nellie,its more than twice that figure,you should see the NYC area,awash and driving labor price$ crazzy,and then WE pay for all their services!


5 posted on 02/16/2005 9:46:57 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: 82Marine89
I agree with this article except for this one point:

Let foreign workers in a variety of industries qualify for temporary employment if Americans won't fill the jobs

The reason why American businesses employ people "under the table" is because they want to pay a substandard wage. They actively seek out illegals to fill these positions, Americans aren't given a choice about wanting the jobs or not. If temporary worker permits are granted to illegals, making them legal and subject to wage minimums of the locality and subject to payroll taxes and such, why would those same employers want to employ them? They would most certainly find other illegals to hire and/or those same temporary workers would again be forced to go back to working "under the table".
6 posted on 02/16/2005 9:48:02 PM PST by Untouchable (pleaseaddthistomyfile@fbi.gov)
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To: 82Marine89

The more I think about it, the more it seems this AgJobs thing is Bush's tradeoff to big Agribusiness for cutting farm subsidies.


7 posted on 02/16/2005 9:53:02 PM PST by Untouchable (pleaseaddthistomyfile@fbi.gov)
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To: Untouchable
I think Americans would fill the jobs. Just remove them from the welfare rolls and force them to go out and earn a living.

(I was humming the song "High Hopes" while writing this.)
8 posted on 02/16/2005 10:08:00 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: 82Marine89

Only one thing can end this: Mechanization. Agriculture is one of the few industries where you can truly say the Mexicans and the Central Americans do work Americans won't do. The children and grandchildren of the Oakies became prosperous, many of them OWNING the largest farms in the Central Valley, while certain other groups who used to do farm labor went to the welfare line and the housing projects.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 10:44:56 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Dad yer funny

I'm all for strict enforcement of immigration laws, but if you are a Korean Deli owner in Brooklyn, are you going to hire Darnell from the projects who badmouths the customer or Jose from Puebla that does what he is told.


10 posted on 02/16/2005 10:46:26 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: 82Marine89
I think Americans would fill the jobs. Just remove them from the welfare rolls and force them to go out and earn a living.

Can we remove the illegals from the welfare rolls too? That could help.
11 posted on 02/16/2005 11:12:57 PM PST by Untouchable (pleaseaddthistomyfile@fbi.gov)
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To: Clemenza
Agriculture is one of the few industries where you can truly say the Mexicans and the Central Americans do work Americans won't do

This statement is utter myth. I've worked in the fields and I know other that have. I also know something you don't. Most crew bosses will only hire latinos. You can try all you want and you won't get put on a crew. Some strawberry crew bosses in the Monterey Bay area, CA, will only hire out of certain villages in Mexico. If you're not from there, fuggetaboutit.
12 posted on 02/16/2005 11:18:31 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Agricultural labor just isn't popular with Americans in general. I have friends of mine, now in their 50s and 60s, who used to work the harvest as a summer job while they were off from school. They didn't treat it as a career, and this was 40-50 years ago.

In NYC, you have one choice: Puebla. NYC went from having NO Mexicans when I was a kid in the 1980s to having 300-400,000 today. Where they really hurt wages are in the food service and the construction industry. As the unions are bought off, you see them on the crews.

13 posted on 02/16/2005 11:28:03 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Clemenza

bttt


14 posted on 02/16/2005 11:34:36 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: 82Marine89

Yep, this is my newspaper. They were also one of the first to editoralize the Eason Jordan story.

Where I live, there are those ribbon-shaped magnetic signs "Support our Troops" and "God Bless America" on so many cars. "W" and "Bush/Cheney" stickers too!


15 posted on 02/17/2005 2:26:22 AM PST by CaliGirl-R
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To: 82Marine89; All

New poll is up!

Do you believe securing U.S. borders should be the first priority of homeland security?
Yes 96% 1895 votes
No 4% 89 votes
Total: 1984 votes

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


16 posted on 02/17/2005 4:13:00 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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