[Ichneumon]

In short, without Christ, a man will screw himself, his brother, and his sister, b/c it his nature.

Why do you hold such a terrible opinion of Jews?

And why do none of the atheists I know act the way you predict?

Something appears to be wrong with your hypothesis, it doesn't match reality.

[gobucks]

"And why do none of the atheists I know act the way you predict?"

Because they only show you what will make them appear righteous.

And your comment about Jews is incorrect, misleading, and quite unfair. But, you are quite consistent in that regard, so I'm unsurprised.

Let's be more precise: I'm against the first imperative of Kant, and very specifically his comments about the 'Law of Reason' - in effect, it is just another idol, just another version of Baal.

When legalists march against grace, the jack boots of history predict the endpoint. Though you don't see it now, chances are pretty good the future history will bear this out .... again. And we'll both argue about who is really to blame.

[Frapster]

Something appears to be wrong with your hypothesis, it doesn't match reality.

That's because they read Romans chapter one but failed to read Romans chapter 2. Certainly humanity is capable of all manner of evil but, as Romans 2 vs 14 and 15 says (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) Humanity is also capable of performing much good - even without God as their objective.