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To: animoveritas

Your collective assumptions effectively presume your conclusion. Does any biologist say that what you are postulating is what happened?


156 posted on 02/15/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite
Does any biologist say that what you are postulating is what happened?

Why would you look into that, when you can "refute" evolution so much more easily by simply inventing your own model and then beating the tar out of it? There's a term for that sort of argument, come to think of it, but it slips my mind at the moment...

Oh, yeah - now I remember...

157 posted on 02/15/2005 9:52:45 AM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Thatcherite
Hi Thatcherite, been a few weeks since our last debate. I enjoy your reasoned arguments, thank you.

I know it may be hard to believe, but I am a scientist...no kidding, degree and everything. Change the assumptions, collectively or individually, as long as they are reasonable. Then recalculate the probability. Given the magnitudes of the problem, probability will remain zero.

As far as biologists, I work with a couple. They agree that the polypeptide chain would need to assemble. Where "the spark of life" comes in is debatable. So I said, let's just look at the physical structure. What are the probabilities of a nucleic acid molecule self assembling? I did forget one other assumption--namely that energy sources are assumed to be plentiful. This is just to avoid arguments about primeval lightning and geothermal activity, and give evolution every benefit of the doubt.

Cheers!

167 posted on 02/15/2005 10:55:19 AM PST by animoveritas (Dispersit superbos mente cordis sui.)
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