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Woman who killed baby ordered sterilized
Atlanta Journal ^ | 02/09/05 | Tom Opdyke

Posted on 02/09/2005 12:33:39 PM PST by Kennesaw

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To: Maryivf
Again,
the conservative credo....
Personal responsibility

No matter what her life was like,
no matter the circumstances,
her actions are still hers.

Passing blame is just wrong and makes the child's death an after thought.

And there is always adoption if you have a baby you don't want (and someone else would cherish).
41 posted on 02/09/2005 1:03:46 PM PST by najida (I actually repaired my Skil saw last night without breaking a nail.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
We need a LOT more of this, and not just for killing children, but for abuse and severe neglect as well.

GovernmentShrinker-(irony)-a mode of speech conveying the opposite of what is meant.

42 posted on 02/09/2005 1:03:49 PM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: RockinRight

ooooh....I shouldn't be laughing:-)

Then again maybe we should give them an opportunity to be convicted of the their folly and repent. Some of the worst demorats turn out to be conservatives when the veil is removed.


43 posted on 02/09/2005 1:04:09 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: Maryivf

How about abstinence?


44 posted on 02/09/2005 1:06:14 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: Maryivf
Why doesn't anyone state the obvious, an abortion would have had an entirely different result for both lives.

Welcome to Free Republic. You know, if we just made it legal to kill children in the first year, that would have made a difference too! No crime, no foul. What matter if you cut it up 2 months before birth or two months after? Either way it'll hurt while it's happening, and when it's done, you have a messy little corpse. But no messy little trial! And that's what counts, really. Right?

45 posted on 02/09/2005 1:06:52 PM PST by wizardoz
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To: jer33 3

someone who shakes her baby to death probably doesn't have the self control for abstinance.


46 posted on 02/09/2005 1:07:15 PM PST by peacebaby ("...please refrain from impugning my integrity." Dr. Condoleezza Rice, 1/18/05)
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To: Kennesaw
A picture of the "mommy" perp:


47 posted on 02/09/2005 1:09:13 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: RockinRight

They tend to do in their own before they ever take the first breath.


48 posted on 02/09/2005 1:10:14 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: peacebaby

I agree. I should have focused more on my opposition to suggesting abortion to this situation.


49 posted on 02/09/2005 1:13:19 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: MontanaBeth

The reality is that if people like this aren't prevented from having more children, the already huge government welfare and "child protection" bureaucracy grows ever more huge. It's not like they're going to become self-supporting, much less support their children. And of course, they won't bother to actually raise the children they have and don't quite manage to kill through violence and neglect, so when those children grow up, the government will have to provide yet more prison space.

Really, forcing them to get sterilized involves much smaller government than the alternatives.


50 posted on 02/09/2005 1:14:37 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Kennesaw

I am mixed on this. Is there a reversable procedure?

If reversible how is this different than putting rapists on drugs to prevent penetration? Or putting people on house arrest with monitoring? Is that unconstitutional too?


51 posted on 02/09/2005 1:16:43 PM PST by dervish
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To: antoninartaud
There is nothing "Hitlerian" about it.

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the history of the Nazi regime if you don't see the direct conmnection.

It is not some kind of inviolate right to get knocked up.

The right to have children is as inviolate as the right to eat, sleep or use the lavatory.

Sterilization is a form of torture.

Again, if she has intentionally murdered someone, execute her. Don't multilate her and keep her around for your amusement.

52 posted on 02/09/2005 1:17:31 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: jer33 3

I wonder if the woman wanted an abortion?

Well, other than abstinence, there's the old cover the penis practice or spermicide method. But those take control.

How many other children does she have?


53 posted on 02/09/2005 1:17:41 PM PST by peacebaby ("...please refrain from impugning my integrity." Dr. Condoleezza Rice, 1/18/05)
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To: Kennesaw

I disagree with this ruling. It is sexist.

I haven't heard of men who kill their children being sterilized.


54 posted on 02/09/2005 1:19:21 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Maryivf

Welcome to Free Republic. This is Jugdish, Sydney, Clayton, Mohammad....


55 posted on 02/09/2005 1:21:21 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (This is my tagline.)
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To: peacebaby

What about men who father kids receiving welfare?


56 posted on 02/09/2005 1:22:13 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: wideawake

See my post #38


57 posted on 02/09/2005 1:22:21 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier then working)
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To: Maryivf

Umm, not really, the baby would still be dead after an abortion. Besides, who said that she didn't want to baby, lots of cruel idiots abuse the children they claim to want. This sounds like a case of shaking baby, which means that the idiot mom probably lost her temper and shook the baby.


58 posted on 02/09/2005 1:23:08 PM PST by Celtic Rose (It may be prudent in me to act sometimes by other men's reason, but I can think only by my own)
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To: Lorianne

"I haven't heard of men who kill their children being sterilized. "

Well, that's a good idea. Sterilize the men who beat their children too.

And sterilze the men on welfare who father children who are on welfare.


59 posted on 02/09/2005 1:23:30 PM PST by peacebaby ("...please refrain from impugning my integrity." Dr. Condoleezza Rice, 1/18/05)
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To: peacebaby

What about men who father kids receiving welfare?


60 posted on 02/09/2005 1:23:50 PM PST by Lorianne
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