Posted on 02/09/2005 6:40:52 AM PST by Maigrey
"when you allow them to tear down any of your black leaders, they are tearing you down also"
What about the "black" media and it's black caucus/naacp arms tearing down leaders who are not of color? I guess he thinks that's reasonable and "opinions" that are justified. What a crock of racist bs.
Obama wasn't black?
"Imagine if a white politician criticized black media...the firestorm would never end."
That's because the media, for the most part, isn't black.
"Chris Rock has a word for these type of people. That word is heard a lot in Rap tumes and old Richard Pryor records."
I hope you're black, Eddie. It's one thing for us to invoke that word to criticize one another -- criticism which, almost always, comes from a place of love. It's quite another for non-blacks to lunge at the opportunity to start saying the word themselves, coming from a different place.
There is a black media. There's even a black channel. You missed my point, I'm afraid.
Nice rant......
"Maybe he is trying to grab some of the attention being showered on Barak Obama"
Maybe so. Being in Chicago, it's funny to watch how liberals are starting to react to Barack's service as Senator. I've heard liberals whining about how Barack was supposed to be a "true progressive" but has now refused to sign the Ohio vote challenge, voted for Condi Rice, and now voted for this class-action bill. They're starting to get the vapors!
Taking all the media together...newspapers, television, radio, we'll leave off sports casters, I'm not so sure that the percentage of African Americans wouldn't be pretty equal to that of their representation in society. Our locals news stations in our town (3 stations) each have at least one African American represented. That's on television, every night. Who knows how many work behind the scenes as reporters but not on air.
My point is that Ford made some pretty silly statements in this speech and it's hard to imagine a white politician condemning Black media and surviving the political firestorm that would follow. Justified or not.
"My point is that Ford made some pretty silly statements in this speech and it's hard to imagine a white politician condemning Black media and surviving the political firestorm that would follow. Justified or not."
We're in full agreement on that.
"Our locals news stations in our town (3 stations) each have at least one African American represented. That's on television, every night. Who knows how many work behind the scenes as reporters but not on air."
I'll tell you: almost none. The ones on the air are window dressing to keep black groups from raising a fuss. In the mainstream media, even in the explicitly liberal media (The Nation, New Republic, American Prospect, etc.), there is almost no black representation among producers and reporters.
I wonder if journalism is a profession that doesn't interest the African American minority group, for some reason? Or is it such an old boys club they don't even both applying?
And, btw, since women compromise over 50% of the population, I notice the bylines and major anchors are not well represented of women either.
I'm not....but you can take your complaint up with Chris Rock.
Pryor used it in that weird "endearingly" way. Chris Rock most certainly does not.
He uses it exactly as we did growing up in 1950s Atlanta. I see from your profile that you are from Chicago (great city BTW....but 500 miles too far north ;-) ) but here in the South, blacks and whites have lived, and depended on each other, for over 400 years. It's a complicated relationship.... but it's honest. In many ways it like a dysfunctional family....but family none-the-less.
The first good spanking I remember, is when I used the N-word in front of my mother (which I had heard from the "bad" boy up the street) and did not even know it was a bad word.
She set me straight real quick!
She said she never wanted to hear that nasty word ever coming out of my lips again.
(Remember...this is 1957... I'm just five ...and I don't even know what I said)
She said (and I'll never forget this) "eddie....Jesus loves everybody equally... remember...'red or yellow, black or white, they are precious in His sight' and that nobody is any better or worse a person just because of the color of their skin."
"But you should get on your knees every night and thank Jesus for making you white".
You may not believe it (because the media was just as biased in the 50s as they are today) but the vast majority of white people in the South during segregation, knew it was not right and bemoaned its unjust imposition and sympathized with our fellow Southerners plight.
But let's face it, we (white folks) weren't aware of the harm that it was bringing to ourselves. Life was OK on our side of the tracks and it takes a lot of courage to go against a 400 year inertia.
"That's just the way it is.
Some things will never change"
Trust me....I knew exactly where Bruce Hornsby was coming from with that song.
That's why it took an MLK.
Change could not have come with a white "leader".
And MLK could not have succeeded without those people like my mother who then found the strength to speak up and stand with him.
Oh well...I see that I have digressed to a great measure, so back to the subject at hand.
Here in the South, regular black people are called:
"Black people" (or Colored if you're of a certain age)
Black assh*les are called N-words.
For that I (and I suspect Chris Rock) will not apologize.
BTW....I was a "liberal" because they "said" they were for equality and trumpeted that they were the true friends of the oppressed.
I became a conservative when I watched the "oh so compassionate" liberals like Joe Biden and Ted Kennedy give the "High-Tech Lynching" to my fellow Georgian Clarance Thomas.
That so angered me that it caused me to "check my premises" and actually READ conservative intellectuals and their ideas of how a just society should be structured.
I finally recognized the lies that had been fed to me by the "liberals' for so many years. (I was 38 when Thomas came up for the court)
My favorite author and columnist is now Thomas Sowell.
He most definitely is NOT an N-word.
Just a great American. :o)
BTTT
Most of the written press that I have seen and read was published with BLACK ink! That seems to be pro-BLACK to me!
{{ I could move to Florida and live the good life but I don't choose to do that because a lot of our folks are not living the good life.}}
Your folks aren't living the good life because your folks are too busy killing each other, comitting most of the violent crimes and this country and too busy glorifying the immoral hip hop culture.
Absolutely -- women, too, are underrepresented, no doubt about it.
It's not that journalism doesn't interest African Americans per se. Blacks are underrepresented in every professional (as opposed to working-class) job. There isn't a formal old boys club, exactly. It's more that a general lack of education and professional connections makes it difficult for blacks to break into any prestigious profession.
The key, of course -- which liberals refuse to believe, out of sheer inertia -- is to get government out of the business of regulating where people can go to school, what small businesses can and cannot do, etc.
Not to be argumentative, and I'm sure you have an answer I haven't thought of, but how does government regulate where people can go to school? Do you mean affirmative action?
Take it up with Chris Rock? He's black. He gets to say the N-word. You don't. That was my entire point.
Read my entire post.
If you still disagree, you're too immature for this forum.
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