The Answer for Pro-Lifers? Gingrich Offers Battle Plan For Taming Federal Judiciary.

The Wanderer Newspaper ^ | 1-27-05 issue | THOMAS F. ROESER

[cpforlife.org]

Unfortunatly the website does not put their entire issues on-line. I scanned this article from the 1-27-05 issue, it is in the center of the front page.

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About the phrase “last-ditch, nuclear strategy” as applied to correctly using the Constitution by Congress to end what every sane citizen knows is a rogue judiciary: I think it is perhaps a poor choice of words, as it relays a false sense that the Founders provisions of the system of checks and balances is somehow “nuclear” or very extreme when dealing with the life issues. It is the Roe v Wade case which was/is extreme in its psychotic reasoning and devastating results.

In a 1-14-05 article from Susan Wills, Esq., associate director for education, Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities, U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops:
And no one seriously suggests that Roe be protected because of its legal merit. Since 1973, six Supreme Court justices and scores of legal articles have criticized Roe and Doe for inventing a right to abortion not found in the Constitution and for usurping the right of states and the people to fashion laws that reflect their views on abortion. As a distinguished law professor, Michael S. Paulsen, put it: “Roe is an embarrassment—perhaps the worst work-product the Court has ever produced. … Roe’s reasoning is utterly laughable, a running joke in constitutional law circles.”

http://www.nccbuscc.org/prolife/publicat/lifeissues/011405.htm

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From the Washington Times: Congress used the authority of Article III, Section 2, clause 2 on 12 occasions to limit the jurisdiction of the federal courts.

[cpforlife.org]

Sirs:

The title of the article is:

The Answer for Pro-Lifers?
Gingrich Offers Battle Plan For Taming Federal Judiciary.

I will scan the paper and post it in minutes to prove it. Can you please return the thread title to the original. By changing it it looses significant perceived credibility and attention.

[cpforlife.org]

Jim,

Clearly this scan shows the accurate title of this article as I had originally posted it. Someone changed it to "The Answer for Pro-Lifers?" Can you please return it to it's full and original title.

Speaker Gingrich adds a great deal to the title and the story is about his strategy.

[cpforlife.org]

Thank you, Sir.

God bless.

[Admin Moderator]

This is the title you posted. No one changed it.

[cpforlife.org]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895260425/104-2389397-6744759?%5Fencoding=UTF8

[mountainlyons]

He messed up? Well not more than mr bill but the rumor was that he was being blackmailed by bill clinton with one of the 1300 missing FBI files! What is the truth?

[Alberta's Child]

In all other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction both as to law and fact" - and here is the key phrase -- "with such exceptions and under such regulations as the Congress shall make."

With all due respect to Mr. Gingrich, he is completely full of sh!t in this matter.

He was the Speaker of the House, for crying out loud. This had always been an option that he could have pursued . . . what the hell was he waiting for?

[Tarpaulin]

Great article, thanks for the ping.

Now...

Admin Moderator:
This is the title you posted. No one changed it.

Do you have a screen shot of the shortened headline?

Either the mod is trying to save face with Jim, or I'm off your ping list.
I'm leaning towards to mod in that this was a publicity stunt.

Tarp.

[cpforlife.org]

My whole point in posting this thread is to raise awarenss that Congress has the authority to remove jurisdiction from the Supreme Court and all lower federal courts on matters related to abortion--as well as all social issues.

Congress can correct the courts AND DOES when it WANTS TO. See link in 3.

[LauraleeBraswell]

I would definitely vote for Newt.

It's easy to prejudge him, but as soon as the man opens his mouth...

He is clear, he is to the point, and he is brilliant.

[Tarpaulin]

I'm looking at a credibility issue between you and FR staff. Which is it?

[cpforlife.org]

LOL--Hold on now Alberta's Child,

I agree he could have done more. The author of this thread even states "Gingrich was a dependable pro-life vote when he served in Congress, but never exactly a champion of the movement." Then later on points out "One reason may be that in his philosophy he is heavily libertarian."

The fact of the matter is that under Gingrich's Speakership there were nowhere near a SIMPLE majority vote required in both houses to pass Article III legislation removing jurisdiction from SCOTUS on matters of abortion etc. Even-more so Beelzabubba Klinton would certianly have vetoed the bill and there was NO WAY there was a 2/3 majority to override.

Which brings us to our current Congress and President. They can pass this and Bush would surely sign into law, yet no one in the Pro-Life movement is championing it.

We the People Act (HR 3893)- Prohibits the Supreme Court and each Federal court from adjudicating any claim or relying on judicial decisions involving: (1) State or local laws, regulations, or policies concerning the free exercise or establishment of religion; (2) the right of privacy, including issues of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction; or (3) the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation where based upon equal protection of the laws.

[Tarpaulin]

Okay, you skipped right over the mod's post and went for Alberta's Child.

Looks like I'm next on your 'to do' list.

[Alberta's Child]

The author of this article looks upon this book as an indication of Gingrich's presidential ambitions. I look upon this book as nothing more than his ambition to sell books.

I think Gingrich did a lot of great things in Washington, and I agree he's got a great political mind in many respects. But let's be honest here . . . he's really no different than any other Beltway has-been who has a lot of things to say about the political process and a lot of advice to offer despite his own failure to capitalize on the opportunities as they were presented to him.

Which brings us to our current Congress and President. They can pass this and Bush would surely sign into law, yet no one in the Pro-Life movement is championing it.

People mistakenly assume that just because the GOP has a majority in both Houses of Congress, they'll be able to pass any legislation like this. The reality is that the GOP doesn't even have enough votes on its own side of the aisle to do this -- let alone any Democrat attempt to filibuster it in the U.S. Senate. Does anyone really think people like Olympia Snowe and Lincoln Chafee are going to support this?

Even-more so Beelzabubba Klinton would certianly have vetoed the bill and there was NO WAY there was a 2/3 majority to override.

This is precisely where Gingrich was a master in Washington, because it never prevented him from passing any legislation at all. He would gladly seize upon the opportunity to pass a bill knowing full well that Clinton intended to veto it -- because Clinton could potentially pay a steep price for doing so. In fact, Gingrich probably had Clinton figured out quite well by the time the 1996 election rolled around. Clinton was such an unprincipled opportunist that he had signed almost every element of GOP's "Contract With America" into law.

[Tarpaulin]

Cat got your tongue?

[Coleus]

In many districts the republicans rely on pro life democrats, Reagan democrats (many are catholic democrats) to cross the party line to vote pro life. In other words, they NEED the pro-life democrats to win certain districts. If r v. wade is made illegal the big-spending, big-government Republican party will most likely lose these districts to the democrats.

I was told many yrs. ago that the republican party will not push to reverse roe v. wade, they can't since the will lost the Pro life democrat base and will subsequently lose elections and lose power.

IMHO, if anyone really thinks the repubilcan party wants to overturn Roe v. Wade and make abortion illegal, I have a very nice bridge to sell you, real cheap, it's on sale now. Any offers?

[cpforlife.org]

Tarpaulin,

Believe what you want. I know what was on my screen.

What would I have to gain by aggravating Jim and the Mods?

For weeks you have been nitpicking at me about utter nonsense, like my pictures not being quite right etc. and my links did't work on YOUR system when they were working on 5 others I had confirm for me. Good grief.

Now you attempt to bring my honesty into question and propose that I staged a "publicity stunt".

I DON"T THINK SO TARP. I don't take kindly to that at all, especially from a newbie with no track record.

I've had enough. I'll ask you nicely to please leave me alone. I have removed you from my list, join someone else and badger them.

The reason I Freep is for Pro-Life, not to squabble over nothingness.

Goodbye and God bless