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Smithsonian in uproar over intelligent-design article
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 29, 2005

Posted on 01/31/2005 12:15:48 PM PST by Grey Rabbit

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To: freespirited
Mr. Meyer's paper contends that current evolutionary theory cannot explain how new animal forms developed in the distant past.

Thus, Meyer has proved the existence of God.

Was'nt this the same Smithsonian that didn't believe the Wright Brothers had flown at Kitty Hawk?

As late as the 18th century, it was common knowledge that human flight was impossible. Now Meyer thinks Evolution is impossible, simply because he can't figure it out.

Meyer is a flightless bird called a "Dodo".

41 posted on 01/31/2005 1:10:33 PM PST by narby (Every time you have to take a flu shot proves Evolution all over again)
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To: narby

Narby, intelligent design is a fact of life. You guys are gonna have to accept that and modify your arguments. Allele frequencies are changed by bioengineers rather often these days.


42 posted on 01/31/2005 1:11:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Instead of asking those specific questions, it should have been: "Is there any agenda here other than good science?"


43 posted on 01/31/2005 1:14:05 PM PST by Rudder
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To: mc6809e
Given all our vulnerabilities to disease and malfunction, I'd say the creator was a poor engineer. The evidence therefore points to SD or Stupid Design

You're assuming the Creator intended your physical body to live forever. Seeing how arrogant some people can become in just one little short life span (not directed at you), which is nothing more than the blink of an eye, I'm not surprised that the Creator didn't intend that.

44 posted on 01/31/2005 1:14:07 PM PST by badbass
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To: fish hawk
don't bitch when you get AIDS. (not you personally)

I suppose these IDers think that the CIA created the HIV virus (back in the day before gene splicing technology existed).

After all, it's impossible for HIV to have just EVOLVED from another virus. [/sarcasm]

45 posted on 01/31/2005 1:15:17 PM PST by narby (Evolution isn't an Intelligent design, its a Brilliant Design)
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To: Rudder

Your argument is with the Constitution. Coddington has no right to inquire about a public employees religion or political leanings and if you think he does you are on the wrong website.


46 posted on 01/31/2005 1:17:41 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Rudder

I found it highly interesting that he would use a man's religion and his politics as a weathervane as to whether this man should be disregarded and destroyed at the very outset.

To deny that there is Political Correctness (read: bigotry) in the 'scientific' community is to deny the obvious.


47 posted on 01/31/2005 1:18:12 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: freespirited

Much as I expected, thanks for the article. I imainge now the Michael Behe's of the world will be referencing this article ad nausea despite its questionable admittance. Its amazing how selective the memories are of the IDers.


48 posted on 01/31/2005 1:18:25 PM PST by GreenFreeper
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To: narby

"After all, it's impossible for HIV to have just EVOLVED from another virus. [/sarcasm]"


It's when the little bugger evolves into something with wings, gills, or little padded feet that I'm interested in. Until then, I'm not worried about it's adaptation. (thanks orionblamblam)


49 posted on 01/31/2005 1:20:08 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Grey Rabbit
Would it be possible to obtain the Emails of the Smithsonian in General, and this interesting fellow Coddington, so as to make them aware of alternative viewpoints to their left wing dogma?

Like by sending them several thousand emails a week?
50 posted on 01/31/2005 1:20:15 PM PST by Bushforlife (I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: jwalsh07
You guys are gonna have to accept that and modify your arguments. Allele frequencies are changed by bioengineers rather often these days

That Allele frequencies are changed isn't the question. It's how the get changed that is the question, and you apparently believe that God was too stupid to use Evolution in order to do His work.

Don't look now, but I hope you do realize that one of the most common tools used by biologists to change gene sequences is to Evolve them. The only difference being that it is a "human selection" rather than a Darwinian "natural selection". The same biological operations are otherwise the same.

51 posted on 01/31/2005 1:21:09 PM PST by narby (Evolution isn't an Intelligent design, its a Brilliant Design)
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To: badbass

Right. Which is why God gives kids cancer -- to prevent them from becoming arrogant.

What genius!


52 posted on 01/31/2005 1:24:01 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: Bushforlife
make them aware of alternative viewpoints to their left wing dogma

What are you? Some kind of troll?

What better way to make conservative republicans look stupid than promoting a six day creation.

You use the term "left wing dogma" to describe a science that has nothing whatever to do with politics.

Creationism will do damage to conservative politics like Gay Marriage has done to the dems.

We've got more important political fish to fry here folks that this old creationism fight that Christians have lost for over 100 years now. We need to do more constructive things like getting good judges confirmed to the supreme court.

53 posted on 01/31/2005 1:24:59 PM PST by narby (Evolution isn't an Intelligent design, its a Brilliant Design)
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To: jwalsh07
Coddington has no right to inquire about a public employees religion or political leanings

He does have a right and a duty to ensure that his employees conduct science without an agenda. I don't trust the conversation as related in this piece (which clearly has an agenda), for it is clear that Coddington is violating employee rights. However, if Coddington had asked: "Is he trying to insert either his religious or political beliefs into his work?" Coddington would be doing his proscribed duty.

54 posted on 01/31/2005 1:25:27 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Grey Rabbit

Frightening when atheists have someone stating the obvious ... God created all we see and don't see. They behave as badly as godless liberals.


55 posted on 01/31/2005 1:27:15 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Grey Rabbit
"I would call myself a believer with a lot of questions, about everything. I'm in the postmodern predicament."

Yes, and I'm certain that they're good questions and that seeking the answers will make you a happier person; none of which changes the fact that they DON'T BELONG IN A PEER REVEIWED SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL!

56 posted on 01/31/2005 1:27:15 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: narby
That Allele frequencies are changed isn't the question. It's how the get changed that is the question, and you apparently believe that God was too stupid to use Evolution in order to do His work.

Well another assumer make an ass of himself. Such is life.

Don't look now, but I hope you do realize that one of the most common tools used by biologists to change gene sequences is to Evolve them. The only difference being that it is a "human selection" rather than a Darwinian "natural selection". The same biological operations are otherwise the same

Your statement is false and your dogma is that of the neo Luddite. Evolution is a different mechanism from gene splicing. E=RM/NS, GS=DM/US

57 posted on 01/31/2005 1:27:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Rudder
I don't trust the conversation as related in this piece (which clearly has an agenda),

You're right. WorldNetDaily's editor, Joe Farah has had a pro ID agenda for years. I believe the newspaper could have been a genuinely significant force in the political world, but by hawking this agenda (and the books, DVD's, etc.) Farah has dumbed down his reading audience. I haven't read WND for years because of this crap.

58 posted on 01/31/2005 1:29:29 PM PST by narby (Evolution isn't an Intelligent design, its a Brilliant Design)
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To: Grey Rabbit
I have an alternative to evolutionary theory....
We were seeded by electroids from the 8th dimension.
That is just as valid as ID..IMHO.
59 posted on 01/31/2005 1:33:55 PM PST by newcats
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To: jwalsh07
Evolution is a different mechanism from gene splicing.

Very good selective reading. I said that "one of the most common tools used by biologists to change gene sequences is to Evolve them". I didn't say the "only" tool.

And my understanding of process of actual "gene splicing" is that subsequent to the splitting and inserting of the foreign gene, the sample is grown and selected for the desired trait. I.E. it is "Evolved". This is necessary because the vast majority of splices fail, and the successful ones must be selected using the same process as Gods "Natural selection".

Human selection vs. Natural selection. I'm amazed you think that God cannot do what humans can.

How little you must think God is.

60 posted on 01/31/2005 1:36:38 PM PST by narby (Evolution isn't an Intelligent design, its a Brilliant Design)
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