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`Environmental movement has lost its way'
The Miami Herald ^ | Posted on Sun, Jan. 30, 2005 | BY PATRICK MOORE

Posted on 01/30/2005 3:06:14 PM PST by .cnI redruM

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I used to be a bit of a crunchycon myself, until I actually studied atmospheric chemistry and got to see the extent that policy agendas had warped the actual science involved.

1 posted on 01/30/2005 3:06:14 PM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: lepton

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2 posted on 01/30/2005 3:16:13 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: .cnI redruM
How about the banning of DDT relating to suppressing Malaria in the developing world? Or the hysterics over Alar?
3 posted on 01/30/2005 3:18:10 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Reading this was a bit like a breath of fresh air.


4 posted on 01/30/2005 3:18:54 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: .cnI redruM

In retrospect, I made the wise choice to get my degree in ecology at Fresno State University (after my USN career), where the professors taught true science, not enviro-whackism.


5 posted on 01/30/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: Bahbah

yeah, kinda unusual hearing someone of that experience, telling the raw and unadorned truth!


6 posted on 01/30/2005 3:27:13 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (sH)
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To: .cnI redruM

Thanks for posting this. I grew up in a 'green' state and watched the building of the only nuclear power plant in the state. The power plant was built on an island in the river; before the land was bought for the plant it was covered with shanty shacks (one of which I lived in). After they finished the plant, white swans came to live in the water around the area because of the fish and foliage that the plant designers put in. Electricity prices dropped to a level that even a kid (me) heard about it. Several years ago the E-wackos got the plant closed using the China Syndrome strategy and the price of electricity jumped up because of it. The last time I was home, the wackos were trying to 'restore it to it's original, pristine state'; obviously they hadn't been there before the plant was built. The nuclear plant's grounds were much more beautiful than all the run down shacks that were on the island originally!


7 posted on 01/30/2005 3:27:39 PM PST by Vor Lady
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To: .cnI redruM
Once again the truth comes out: Environmentalists are bad for the environment.
8 posted on 01/30/2005 3:28:06 PM PST by rottndog (Save a tree--Eat a beaver!)
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To: .cnI redruM

These are only some of the problems caused by the left wing zealots who took over and co-opted all the major environmental organizations.

For instance, almost all of them support abortion throughout the third world, because they think people are bad for animals. Kill people, save animals.

Most of them support the Kyoto treaty, a huge boondoggle that would suck up money that could be used for better purposes, including real environmental improvements.

I am a very strong environmentalist. Nature needs to be preserved; pollution needs to be cleaned up. But it has to be done sensibly, and people have to be flexible enough to recognize when they have been wrong.

I feel very strongly that conservatives should not attack the idea of environmentalism as such, as freepers often perhaps jokingly do, but that we should take it back from the nutjobs who captured and perverted it in the 60s.


9 posted on 01/30/2005 3:29:02 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: .cnI redruM

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2005012919030002586895&dt=20050129190300&w=RTR&coview=

It says that global warming will destroy the world by 2026.

WWF environmental group scamming for donations.


10 posted on 01/30/2005 3:35:22 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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They are killing millions by not allowing DDT spraying to control malaria.


11 posted on 01/30/2005 3:36:30 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: .cnI redruM

read later.


12 posted on 01/30/2005 3:37:58 PM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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I got that email as well. An old friend of mine who's still a true believer. I read their propaganda just for curiosity's sake. It's pretty threadbare, if you don't completely drink the cool-aid.
13 posted on 01/30/2005 3:44:03 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Senator Boxer - For whom the bell curve tolls!)
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And that is what normally does happen. There is no disputing that the US is a vastly cleaner and healthier nation than it was in the late 1970's.
14 posted on 01/30/2005 3:45:24 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Senator Boxer - For whom the bell curve tolls!)
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There is no disputing that the US is a vastly cleaner and healthier nation than it was in the late 1970's

True that we have cleaner air and water. But untrue that "there is no disputing that ..." I run into co-workers and friends all the time who are CONVINCED that the air is getting worse, the water is dirtier, and the forests are almost gone. This link to the EPA database comes in handy.

15 posted on 01/30/2005 4:28:18 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: .cnI redruM

" As for aesthetics, wind turbines are works of art compared to some of our urban environments."


I think that is the most telling quote in the article. So many of these people are frauds who want pristine wilderness around them. I fight over development as well, but I am not some commie loving liar. I don't want big buildings or crime in my area of the woods.


16 posted on 01/30/2005 4:38:12 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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OK, pardon my sentence construction. There is no way to dispute in a true manner that.....

Reads more accurately, I agree.


17 posted on 01/30/2005 4:47:41 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Senator Boxer - For whom the bell curve tolls!)
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To: .cnI redruM

So it's really not Environmental Control. It's just Control. It's a Marxist deal. If it wasn't the environment, it'd be something else.


18 posted on 01/30/2005 4:49:41 PM PST by henderson field
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Pretty much. Smoking, fat in fast food, anything will do.


19 posted on 01/30/2005 4:52:07 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Senator Boxer - For whom the bell curve tolls!)
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To: satchmodog9

In order to have Pristine Wilderness, we'd have to deport 100 million recent immigrants. Which of you would like to go back to the old country? Let's have a show of hands.


20 posted on 01/30/2005 4:52:26 PM PST by henderson field
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