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Methamphetamine Scourge Sweeps Rural America
Reuters (via Yahoo) ^ | Jan 29. 2005 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 01/29/2005 10:32:26 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

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To: Will_Zurmacht

I guess some of us who have had problems with daughters that age really haven't seen the worst...


61 posted on 01/30/2005 12:14:22 AM PST by steve86
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To: Mr. Mojo

So, the achilles heel of the Blue Statesis methamphetimine?

Surely this is a 'red state' problem.


62 posted on 01/30/2005 12:16:07 AM PST by recalcitrant (who stole the cork off my lunch?)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Sick.

Good for the Dad to ban her.

I am not pro tough love right off the bat when a loved one makes poor choices but in the case off "tweekers"
yes BANNED untill clean for two years.

They will rob family blind and they take anything from garage tools to silverware.

Users are IMO souless humans.


63 posted on 01/30/2005 12:17:18 AM PST by oceanperch (2005 is going to be an Awesome Year, which way that will go only God knows)
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To: Nevski

---Speaking from experience B.C. (Before Christ), I can't begin to describe how good a speed rush makes you feel. I understand totally why it is such a popular drug. And, having seen it destroy a high school friend, understand totally how devastating are its effects.---

We used to take it orally, rolled up in a piece of bread to keep it from burning a blister in our mouths. People that shot it up didn't live very long. This was in the sixties. Some got killed in the war, but a lot more got killed doing drugs.


64 posted on 01/30/2005 12:17:54 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: datura

You type like you're on drugs.


65 posted on 01/30/2005 12:20:15 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: BearWash

It's the most drastic thing I have ever seen.

The sad part is if you knew the family you'd realize it can happen to anyone. A normal, middle class family. Mom Dad 2 daughters. He has his own business and while not rich does well enough. Nothing in her past raised a flag.

I still can't get my head around it. I went over to cheer my friend up after her back surgery and listened to about two hours of this. Tragic.

They can't let their daughter in their house because she will steal anything she can. She's wacked out 5 days a week and then sleeps 2 days straight. She's now about 90 lbs. and looks like hell. She used to be cute as a button...

With her age, they can't actually do anything, but dad was tempted to call the cops in and get her and felon boyfriend busted. That's how bad it's got in 1 year.
It's so bad They'd rather see their youngest daughter in jail than cranked out and stripping for more drug money.......

But they haven't gone that route...I thank God I'm not in those shoes.


66 posted on 01/30/2005 12:23:43 AM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: k2blader

LOL! Put a little paranoi in the post you were refering too and I would almost bet the guy was a tweek.


67 posted on 01/30/2005 12:23:59 AM PST by oceanperch (2005 is going to be an Awesome Year, which way that will go only God knows)
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To: Mr. Mojo

It is getting to be the drug of choice in Washington State. The law is always busting labs. However, I am afraid that new ones replace busted ones almost immediately. The law says they are beating them but I seriously have my doubts.


68 posted on 01/30/2005 12:24:37 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: oceanperch
Put a little paranoi in the post you were refering too and I would almost bet the guy was a tweek.

Maybe it's just a Libertarian, or would that be the same thing. :-)

69 posted on 01/30/2005 12:25:53 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: datura

probably true.
follow the wod money to find out what the truth really is.

in fact, 'follow the money' is something we should do in just about every aspect of life, law and politics, tis the way to get at the truth, and separate the propaganda from reality.

the wod industry is super big $$$$$.
and they get to wear all those black bullet proof clothes and act like soldiers, without even leaving our shores.


70 posted on 01/30/2005 12:26:30 AM PST by recalcitrant (who stole the cork off my lunch?)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
I'm going to pray everyday that our little granddaughters will have money to go to a private Christian school when they are that age. I know, it's not an absolute guarantee they stay out of trouble but it's a probability thing. You know, I have noticed that when kids from a local Christian high school are in McDonalds they are the quietest, most polite teenagers I have ever seen -- much better behaved than I was at that age! On the other hand, when kids from the public high school go to the same restaurant I usually have to leave due to the noise and vulgarity.

Prayers for your friends as well...

71 posted on 01/30/2005 12:28:55 AM PST by steve86
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To: Mr. Mojo
Nobody has been exposed to more drugs than I was in the sixties and seventies. I saw it all and did half of it. No three quarters of it. But all I had to do was look at your average speed freak and knew that crap was not something I was ever going to put in my body. Let alone by injecting it into my veins.

I was a very average kid from the Midwest in the sixties although a tad more adventursome and ripe for taking the wrong road due to very poor parenting. I found myself in one hell of an adventure very near the corner of Haight and Ashbury streets and later in the wine country of Kalifornicate. What a party! I would have done a good ten years in the big house if I'd been caught for half of the stuff I did.

But as crazy as I was ... I never became addicted to any drug and after about five years I was through with drugs completely. I just valued my own life too much to ruin it. Even though I might as well have been raised by wolves I somehow absorbed some modicum of self respect from the milieu I grew up in. Not sure why ... as when looking back I am ever astounded at how radically uncaring everyone in my life was. I found this especially true of my high school teachers and counselors. Zombies, all of them.

But I did not self destruct. I somehow gained enough humanity in growing up that the dark side was just not where I was going to end up. Though rotting at it's heart America was still basically wholesome. John Wayne was still the sort of role model most men could look up to.

Is that still true about America? I know parents generally still don't care much about their kids. They give more attention to the TV than they do their own children. I'm sure teachers are still just collecting a paycheck. Still the most poorly educated amongst all the so-called professionals. Now, however, there are no more heroes. Every sitcom on TV is brainwashing young minds into promiscuity and self destruction. Big time sports figures act like criminals or are out and out criminals.

I offer my little story above as just an average experience of a child of the sixties. What will happen to the average child of today? Will they have their romp in drugland and then grow out of it? Well from where I sit ... if you are a parent ... you better turn off that TV cause if you are just an average parent ... chances are very high that your kid is going to get blown away like a villian in a cheap action movie..
72 posted on 01/30/2005 12:29:41 AM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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To: Mr. Mojo

My bf's ex wife is a meth addict. It ruined his life, and the lives of his children. She has custody, isn't that special...


73 posted on 01/30/2005 12:32:11 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: Will_Zurmacht
They'd rather see their youngest daughter in jail than cranked out and stripping for more drug money.......

That may be the only way to see her live as opposed to killing herself before everyone's eyes.

74 posted on 01/30/2005 12:36:49 AM PST by Johnny Crab (Always thankful.)
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To: Johnny Crab

that's was her dad's reasoning as well...
what a heck of a choice

mom of course still has hope...but her dad is beyond the limit i think. it'll be years if they can ever get their lives repaired..but that's assuming she lives through this.


75 posted on 01/30/2005 12:41:52 AM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: datura

---I don't know which is worse, the level of ignorance I'm seeing on this thread from the "Speed Kills" folks, or the fact that you are all buying this WOD propaganda BS hook, line, and sinker. Ask some of our combat pilots or Rangers about the meth they're ISSUED. But that's OK, since they are administered their doses by a doctor, right? Hypocrisy - whether left or right politically - still sucks. ---

One high school friend of mine, a big football player that all the girls swooned over, got too fond of speed. He started hanging out alone. His skin turned grey and he turned up dead. He was 19 I think and he'd been shooting the stuff. The rest of us didn't shoot and eventually moved on.

Another guy I knew was executed by his two best friends over a drug deal involving speed. He was 20 or 21.

Reds got some, speed others, more to coke, and alcohol took a lot more.


76 posted on 01/30/2005 12:45:50 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

And the people who make this crap are always the lowest form of drug scum. These aren't hippies growing pot, or yuppies snorting coke, or even slum-bums smoking crack, they are always near-death nothing-to-lose trailer trash of the lowest order, for whom life in prison would be a huge step up. I'm not sure what could be done about this, as just throwing them in jail is like sending them on a free resort vacation. Beds, food, TV, showers, it's a lot better than their outside lives.


77 posted on 01/30/2005 12:55:47 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: montag813; Happy2BMe; 26lemoncharlie

I think we should send users to Mexico to help their economy!


78 posted on 01/30/2005 12:55:58 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: datura

God, you're stupid. Do you think the shit made out of cold pills and batteries is the same speed given occasionally to soldiers in combat?


79 posted on 01/30/2005 1:05:08 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: farmfriend

BTT!!!!!!


80 posted on 01/30/2005 3:00:05 AM PST by E.G.C.
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