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9-11 Outrage: Hamilton College, Ward Churchill, and Jerry Springer
Hamilton College Alumni website (secure) | 1/28/05 | James Bohan

Posted on 01/29/2005 5:03:33 PM PST by Jatreus

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To: Jim Noble

I'm surprised that a Colgate graduate, often recognized as Hamilton's rival and at-times collaborative school, would denigrate the school to such extent. My previous comment was simply a response to the claim that students at Hamilton are neither hard-working nor to be trusted as academics.

The speaker initially said he/she would not trust a degree issued from Hamilton; as I will hopefully attain one of these degrees, I took offense. I believe we at Hamilton work just as hard, or harder, than our brother liberal arts schools.

To address the question of what I, as a Hamilton student, think about the controversy, I believe that in concept hearing Ward Churchill speak would be interesting (in the way it's interesting to hear any radical/opposing viewpoint). However, I think extending an invitation to him was neither prudent nor logical. Although Hamilton is an institute of higher learning promoting free speech, I do not think it's always wise to exercise this option.

Although, like anywhere, there are radicals on campus who care only of free speech and the "right" to hear Churchill, I assure you that there are many of us who agree with what most of you are saying. It seems unfair to condemn the entire student population because of the choices of our administration.


21 posted on 02/03/2005 11:55:23 AM PST by hammie (In defense of Hamilton College)
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To: hammie
I'm surprised that a Colgate graduate, often recognized as Hamilton's rival and at-times collaborative school, would denigrate the school to such extent

Please provide a cite or quote in which I denigrate Hamilton College, Clinton, NY, or Utica Club beer.

22 posted on 02/03/2005 1:27:18 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

Don't be too tough on the Hamilton grads. (I am one, so I guess I have a vested interest....) If you could see the alumni posts on the College web site (which the public unfortunately does not have access to--"free speech"?) you would see that most of the messages eviscerate the administration and Rabinowitz for inviting Churchill/Rosenberg. In addition, a number of the faculty and many of the students have been very outspoken in their criticism of the selection of these individuals. The school clearly has problems, but we shouldn't paint every Hamiltonian with a broad brush simply because of the president and some leftist professors. If we were to adopt that reasoning, every American would be tainted by virtue of Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy's misdeeds. (And I certainly want no part of them!)


23 posted on 02/04/2005 4:02:47 PM PST by Jatreus
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To: Jatreus

how come they didn't invite tim mcveigh over to teach?


24 posted on 02/04/2005 4:03:58 PM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: ken21

Mr. Mcveigh is no longer with us. If he were, he probably would be catching up on old times with the Unabomber.


25 posted on 02/04/2005 4:12:14 PM PST by Jatreus
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To: Jatreus

check this out. apparently they watch fox news and report it to their leftist buddies:


http://www.newshounds.us/2005/02/01/fight_back_freedom_of_speech_under_attack.php


26 posted on 02/04/2005 4:48:49 PM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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Did you note the description of their site concerning Fox News: "We're eight middle-aged citizens who believe a viable democracy depends upon viable media. Read more in our manifesto"? "Manifesto"?! Gee, where have I heard that before?


27 posted on 02/04/2005 5:56:23 PM PST by Jatreus
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Check this site out. http://hoopla.modblog.com

It's a blog hosted by Hamiltonians seeking to oust the school's president over the Churchill affair.
28 posted on 02/04/2005 6:15:20 PM PST by Jatreus
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