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To: TChris
On this program, you live life in what ever way floats your boat, then quickly "find Jesus" at the end. "See ya in heaven!" Not.

It is by grace that we are saved, not by works. You can't earn your way into heaven like you can into Hell. Whether he was saved or not is not knowable by us and those who are so quick to condemn are dangerously close to assuming themselves equal to God, or, at least, using God's name in vain.

24 posted on 01/25/2005 8:42:52 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
It is by grace that we are saved, not by works.

True, but Jesus has taught that good works are a requirement to receive His grace. The two are not mutually exclusive, but one is required to receive the other. He gives His grace to those who repent and follow Him.

The Master Himself taught that a person must do his teachings, not just hear them:

Matthew 7:24 - Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Again, when asked the specific question: "...what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Jesus responded, "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:16-17)

Jesus again taught that good works are a requirement for salvation:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Paul taught the same:

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

(Emphasis added)

After these passages, read all of the second chapter of James. It teaches again that good works are a requirement.

I would never presume to wrest judgment from Him whose right it is to judge. But He and His prophets have plainly taught the principle that good works are required to receive that grace which will save. I will readily stand up for the truths He has taught, which are not mine.

42 posted on 01/26/2005 7:27:41 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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