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To: muawiyah
Old line protestants = Lutherans, Episcopalians, Presbyterians etc.

Fundamentalists Denominational Baptists, methodists, church of the brethren, church or the Nazarene etc. (The preacher barking up the wrong tree 150 -250 years in the Tennessee camp meetings among other places these people used to speak in tongues shake and fall down)

Holy rollers = Denominational Pentecostals (Nickname denotes someone rolling on the floor while speaking in other tongues or prophesying -- this died out some 50 years ago)

Charismatics = nondenominational latest out cropping of spirit filled believers

See this is in the bible, the apostles experienced it, the apostolic Fathers had it in their churches until 200-250 AD.

There is way too much in this regard that all to many churches pretend it doesn't exist of it doesn't matter

Because I don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Because I say it doesn't exist doesn't make it go away.

Because I have been taught to reject it does not change what it is.

So if it is plainly in chapter after chapter of the bible and it is in church history after the apostles, and it keeps cropping up again and again in virtually every church and denomination -- I wonder if that might indicate that God is at work or still possibly speaking?

But then most denominations after this experience has left them for a few centuries fall back to a view that God dwells in a book and that there are only the words of those who once spoke with him thousands of years ago. And there are the humane rules that are derived from such.

If God is eternal he is alive or at least it would seem so.

If God is alive and he cares about men then it would seem that he would communicate with men in more real time means than just with a book with conversations from 2000- 4500 years ago.

Old time protestants seem to have problems believing that God is alive and that he can speak and that the bible even means what it says.

Fundamentalists believe in the parts of the bible that suit them and believe that God can only speak through the sections of the bible that suit them.

Pentecostals believe in the parts of the bible that suit them and though they say they believe that God can speak through prophecy dreams and visions -- they really believe that God can only speak through the sections of the bible that suit them.

And Charismatics believe in the parts of the bible that suit them and though they say that they believe even more tjat God can speak through prophecy dreams and visions and are sometimes inclined to obey what they see or hear they generally back away from such behavior and instead believes that God can only speak through the sections of the bible that suit them.

The reason that there is all this similarity between fundamentalists pentecostal and charismatics is they are all historically from the same branch and carry the same doctrine that was written 500 years ago by Menno Simons

If we would care to learn our roots church wise we might understand where we have come from and maybe we might also grasp where we are headed

47 posted on 01/25/2005 7:22:01 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: Rocketman
You missed defining EVANGELICAL.

BTW, there's probably a lot more in common between current Pentecostal practice and that of the Church of the First Born (Lutheran) in Finland than you'd probably believe.

52 posted on 01/25/2005 7:34:19 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: Rocketman

As far as Christianity is concerned, will their be more unity or more factionalism in the future?


57 posted on 01/25/2005 7:50:29 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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