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To: Mark Felton

I said it before and I'll say it again.

There is nothing in what the Imam said that I object to.

If the government told me to murder my neighbor, I would say no thank you because my religion prohibits murder.

IMO, the Imam in this example is saying the same thing. He's saying if the government tells you to do something vile, don't do it. He's not saying overthrow the government and institute Jihad.

No need to reintroduce the thread.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 2:24:10 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: Middle-O-Road
Welcome to Free Republic.

I disagree. Radical Islam is a cancer that needs to be destroyed, especially since it's a religious and political system according to the Imam. This isn't buddahism, Christanity, or Judaism. It's a form of barbaric political control.

/john

6 posted on 01/25/2005 2:31:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Middle-O-Road

Actually he's telling his listeners to lie under oath, which is a Federal offense of no small magnitude.


9 posted on 01/25/2005 2:33:52 PM PST by thoughtomator (Favorite Dish: Spotted Owl Teriyaki)
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To: Middle-O-Road
Absolute need to reintroduce this thread.

Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, *except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for *war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Ahmad, 6.459. H).

*any non Muslim land is considered Dar ul Harb a land of war

The name of this concept is taqiyya.

Get to know that word, because of this "scripture" moslems lie without shame.
14 posted on 01/25/2005 2:42:06 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Middle-O-Road

Islam's very goal is counter to the US Constitution and prevailing laws. They've already committed countless acts of violence, including mass murder on US soil. Yhe Koran tells them they get a free pass to heaven and 72 virgins or raisins if they murder the infidel...which happens to be the rest of us. And I've yet to see Muslim bake sales for the victims of these acts of violence. Instead, dead silence -- that would be New Jersey where if you speak up, you're dead -- or cheering from neighborhood mosques.


155 posted on 01/25/2005 6:03:09 PM PST by hershey
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To: Middle-O-Road
If the government told me to murder my neighbor, I would say no thank you because my religion prohibits murder.

Sure, but would you lie that you were willing to murder your neighbor in order to become a citizen of such a perverse land?

That's more akin to what the Iman is saying.

161 posted on 01/25/2005 6:11:24 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Middle-O-Road
Welcome to Free Republic.

The matter of truthfulness regarding willingness to comply with Constitutional Law as a citizen or legal resident of the United States is a serious and critical matter.

I disagree with your position and hold that any direct or roundabout directive by any person Imam or not that any applicant for citizenship may lie in their oath of citizenship for the purpose of violating Constitutional Law is a crime.

It is ludicrous to hold that the Constitution requires the US to facilitate those that would assemble a fifth column within America and engage in conspiracy to violate Constitutional Law. All these people are violent anti-American extremists, and should be identified and targeted for neutralization no matter where in the world they are, as should trolls.

226 posted on 01/26/2005 12:32:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I'm gonna hear it for this.)
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To: Middle-O-Road
If the government told me to murder my neighbor, I would say no thank you because my religion prohibits murder.

Actually I think you may have it backwards, don't you see it is Islam that will tell him to indeed commit murder of that neighbor.

229 posted on 01/26/2005 1:22:44 PM PST by scannell
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