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Our Worst Enemy (Rabbi Lapin on "the Fockers" and defamation of Judaism)
Toward Tradition ^ | Jan 25 05 | Rabbi Lapin

Posted on 01/25/2005 9:44:18 AM PST by churchillbuff

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1 posted on 01/25/2005 9:44:21 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Liberalism has ruined Judaism.


2 posted on 01/25/2005 9:49:47 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: churchillbuff

I love Rabbi Lapin. Thanks for posting.....


3 posted on 01/25/2005 9:53:16 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Rabbi Lapin loved The Blues Brothers?

The good rabbi is A-OK in my book, then.

"Use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers has been approved."

4 posted on 01/25/2005 9:55:51 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: churchillbuff

I am a gentile. Is it OK to agree with him?


5 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:36 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons)
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To: churchillbuff

Excellent read. Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:39 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: churchillbuff

"concupiscent"

Great word!


7 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: churchillbuff
Is this article legit? The Rabbi pretty much denounces elite Jewish people as in fact being profligate, even to the point of saying Hitler spoke the truth! I think he went a point too far.

I thought the movie was funny, but I wasn't prepared for the fact it was 90% a sex farce. It was only rated PG-13 but the topics could not have been anymore adult.

8 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:14 AM PST by Williams
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He fails to realize that it is his exaggerated attacks on Mel Gibson, whose movie recently took top honors at the 31st annual People's Choice Awards, that do considerable harm to American Jews, not the film itself.

The unnamed 'leader of a famous Jewish defense organization' is crying wolf. When there's something that really matters, the response will be that much slower, perhaps too slow, since the credibility of these kinds of criticisms will have been much diminished.

9 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:56 AM PST by nosofar
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It was only rated PG-13 but the topics could not have been anymore adult."""

With a title like that, you were surprised that it was sex-drenched?

10 posted on 01/25/2005 9:59:03 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Go watch the Mel Brooks movie "The Producers". It will make you feel better about "Meet the Fockers".


11 posted on 01/25/2005 9:59:57 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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Go watch the Mel Brooks movie "The Producers". It will make you feel better about "Meet the Fockers"."""

What's your point?

12 posted on 01/25/2005 10:00:47 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

I recently came across a roast for Jerry Stiller on cable. It was so foul mouthed that he was uncomfortable. Ben Stiller's stuff has always been too coarse for me. Also we have the Whoopi Goldberg and others thing for the Kerry campaign and performances on the Comedy channel. I think they go way too far and, as the Rabbi said, coarsen our culture.

I, too, saw similarities to the general cultural denegration that occured in Germany between the wars (Cabaret.)


13 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:12 AM PST by marsh2
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To: Paradox

My wife was good friends with a Jewish girl in college, and both were in each others' weddings. It always amazed me at how paranoid her family was that right-wing Christians were out to get them, but rarely even acknowledged the most obvious forms of anti-semitism they faced. I will never forget their disdain for Newt Gingrich and how scared they were when conservatives took over in 1994. At this girl's 21st birthday party, I overheard her mother and several of her friends talking about how the Christians in congress were going to force them to pray to Jesus in schools and remove their Jewish heritage. Now we see well-known liberals trashing Jews and doing more to disparage them than anything Christians ever dreamed of.

Of course, no one bats an eye at the way Hollyweird disparages Christians or how ridiculous they have been portrayed over the years. Glad to see at least one Jewish leader realizing that Hollyweird's depravity has no boundaries!


14 posted on 01/25/2005 10:02:40 AM PST by Littlejon
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To: churchillbuff

The good Rabbi rocks! All Lapin posts are highly appreciated


15 posted on 01/25/2005 10:02:44 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Paradox
I think it was atheism and paganism that ruined Judaism. (assuming it is ruined)

Since it was the covenant between Abram (the child of Baal worshipers) and God that he became Abraham the father of Israel and Judaism.

There were no Jews until the pagan Abram came face to face with with the Almighty One
and thereby became a Jew.

There are those who survive great tragedy and give God thanks for bringing them through (though they also mourn the loss of loved ones) like Job...

....And there are those who having survived great tragedy, turn their backs on God... saying that if God is love.. then how can he allow such tragedy to occur to those who follow Him..

Therefore He is either not what He says He is..or He does not exist at all..

If He does not exist...and never has...and is only a childish fairytale...then they can and do make fun of those they consider foolish or silly for an elaborate culture based upon nothingness..

The truth is they lack even a modicum of respect for others...and they love to poke fun and make lots of money doing it...the more vile it is..the more people laugh and pay for it..they call it humor..and they laugh all the way to the bank...

I don't know how much damage it does to the culture or merely reflect how damaged the culture is... perhaps a dynamic of both...

imo
16 posted on 01/25/2005 10:05:59 AM PST by joesnuffy (If America isn't a Christian nation from whom do we derive our God given rights?)
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Found Rabbi Lapin's article very interesting. While I haven't seen "The Fockers" I can agree where he is sick and tired of his religion is being denigrated by the Hollywood elite. Even more disturbing is when one's own community takes part in that denigration. I am a Catholic (of sorts) and even though I am not terribly active, it does bother me when one blatantly denigrates the religion I was raised in, although there is plenty that the Catholic Church can be criticized for. I have found recently that more and more conservative Jews are making their voices heard...and I think it's about time. Now is this conservatism emanating from a weariness of the left's attitude toward Israel or is it a genuine change in thinking (personally I think it's a combination of both)? I'll make a very politically incorrect statement. The Jewish community in the US has been very much in the forefront of not only liberal circles, but socialist and marxist ones as well. True, most of those marxist were not observant (oil and water don't mix), but it looks like politically conservative Jews have a big job on their hands battling those within their own community (and I don't envy you guys) Catholics as a group have never been known to be outrageously liberal. True, like Jews we were big supporters of the Democratic party when we thought that it represented the average working people...but our Church really kept us from ever being truly wedded to the left. Now we have a Church whose clergy is probably much more liberal than the average person in the pew, and when that clergy gets overly political most of us just plug up our ear drums. Thank you Rabbi Lapin for speaking your mind.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 10:12:23 AM PST by brooklyn dave
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To: churchillbuff
bumpmark for a reread.

Rabbi Lapin, you are a man of rare courage. Bless you.

18 posted on 01/25/2005 10:12:47 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: churchillbuff

BY the way is Ron Jeremy still alive?


19 posted on 01/25/2005 10:15:55 AM PST by brooklyn dave
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To: churchillbuff

Why does the humor work and what does it say about complete trust.


20 posted on 01/25/2005 10:19:05 AM PST by bvw
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