TNR: Ball Fake [The Loony Left Loses Another Liberal]

The New Republic ^ | 01.21.05 | Tom Frank

[Stultis]

Tom, don't you get the memos? Mainstream liberals have a perfectly reasonable method for dealing with seditious extremists like this. They pretend these wackos are really just slightly-left-of-mainstream "progressives" (using the word "socialist" is "red baiting" which is always wrong) and they never, ever publish or broadcast anything which reveals the actual views of these communi, er, progressives. What were you thinking!?

[T. Buzzard Trueblood]

the disintegration of the Democrats is not good for this country...this will leave the Republicans with no opposition and will inevitably lead to widespread corruption

I agree that a strong opposition is necessary to maintain a truly vital Republic. But I don't think that that opposition is the Democrats. Their ideas are all stale as hell. Their last idea was the New Deal. Personally, I wish the two parties in the USA were the Republicans and the Libertarians. That would be a juicy political contest to watch.

[stands2reason]

Is it too much to hope that some of those who challenged Kristinn Taylor in his Q&A with the WP by stating "How dare do you call the protestors anti-Americans!" get to read this?

[rwfromkansas]

This man is still a Democrat, but he seems to have a brain on his head, and I salute him.

I am sure I would disagree with his pieces on Bush though. :)

[CyberAnt]

In my first answer - when I said - "I don't agree" I left off the word "either" - I'm sorry.

[CyberAnt]

That percentage may not be what's left now that the election is over, but in watching all the polling data it turned out to be a consistant number for the Bush-haters. Actually, the real ultra-left wing radicals are about 17% of the party.

[conservativecorner]

Can it be that some on the left including journalists at least see a glimmer of reality in their thoughts?

[doug from upland]

This is great. Thanks for finding it.

[Redbob]

"I can't believe that most democrats in this country are traitors and believe the things the loony left believes."

I can.

[lowbridge]

No, what I needed to counter this speaker was not a Democrat like me who might argue that elections were, in fact, important. What I needed was a Republican like Arnold who would walk up to him and punch him in the face.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These weren't harmless lefties. I didn't want Nancy Pelosi talking sense to them; I wanted John Ashcroft to come busting through the wall with a submachine gun to round everyone up for an immediate trip to Gitmo, with Charles Graner on hand for interrogation.

Oh, my sides.

[Katya]

Thank you, I laughed so very hard. The author is a supreme example of Limousine liberalism...oh, the shabbiness of it all and no ball to warm the soul. The author of course, pays taxes in order to avoid, ever having to deal with "those" lefties. However, this IS your base.

[elwood]

Don't worry. Republicans will have plenty of opposition soon enough. The tens of millions of voters in this country who still depend on Big Government everyday will make sure of that.

Do you really think the Republicans are still the party of small government? Jeez...

[libertyman]

I agree w/ you...in addition to that, the further to the Left the Dims go, then the same will happen to the GOP: the Dims who consider themselves to be not-so-liberal, or kinda even conservative, will join the GOP instead, thus pushing the GOP slowly towards the Left. The GOP is no longer the party of Barry Goldwater, Pat Buchanan, or former Sen. Robert Taft.

Consider the former Dims that are now in the GOP (William Bennett is one example): there are a lot more of them than there are former Repub's in the Dim Party.

[Cooda]

Stan Goff was, in fact, Delta Force and Rangers (you could try to read his two books: "Full Spectrum Disorder" and
"Hideous Dream") It is glaringly obvious that Goff has far more brains and guts than Frank. I would challenge any of you to read Goff's essay: "There's No There There - Debating a Neocon"
http://www.counterpunch.org/goff11102004.html
C'mon it can't hurt too much!
By the way, his son is serving in Iraq.
By the other way, he is no friend of the Democrats or Liberals or Progressives. He has blasted past all that crap.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

hello? openly marxist! he blew right past the liberals to the left.