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Inside information on the New Jersey murders
Jihad Watch ^ | January 20, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 01/21/2005 1:32:42 AM PST by moonpie57

A close friend of the Coptic Christian brutally murdered in New Jersey along with his family, Hossam Armanious, is the source of this information, which comes to you exclusively from Jihad Watch:

The Armanious family had inspired several Muslims to convert to Christianity — or thought they had. These converts were actually practicing taqiyya, or religious deception, pretending to be friends of these Christians in order to strengthen themselves against them, as in Qur'an 3:28: "Let believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful -- he that does this has nothing to hope for from Allah -- except in self-defense."

It was these "converts" who knocked on the door of the Armanious home. Of course, the family, not suspecting the deception, was happy to see the "converted" men and willingly let them in to their home. That's why there was no sign of forced entry. Then the "converted" Muslims did their grisly work.

Many Copts are regarding the murders as a warning to the Coptic community as a whole, related to the increasing strife between Copts and Muslims in Egypt and the Copts' energetic efforts in America to get the truth out about the differences between Middle Eastern Christians and Muslims -- differences that the Islamic lobby, with its disingenuous talk of "Arab Americans," routinely glosses over and hopes you don't notice. The Copts, to their immense credit, have been particularly outspoken among Middle Eastern Christians about Muslim oppression. And yes, many are active on Pal Talk debating Muslims.

The nature of the warning? The murders send a signal from the Muslims to the Copts: we are going to behave here the same way we behaved in Egypt, and the First Amendment and American law enforcement will not protect you. Don't expect America to keep you safe from us. The oppression and harassment you thought you had left behind in Egypt has now come to you.

This means, if Armanious's friend is correct, that this is indeed America's Theo van Gogh murder: indication that all Muslims in the nation do not, as we are supposed to believe, unanimously accept the parameters of American pluralism. That at least some are willing to enforce Sharia penalties right here, right now.

But there are so many nominees for the Walter Duranty prize this time that most Americans have no clue of what's going on. Duranty, of course, was the New York Times reporter who knowingly covered up information about the genocidal famine Stalin caused and fueled in Ukraine, and won a Pulitzer Prize for his efforts. The Pinch Sulzberger Times of these dark days should dedicate the whole paper to Duranty's honor, and put his picture on the front page right next to "All the News That's Fit to Print."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: armanious; coptic; newjersey
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I'm really curious to see what comes from this investigation.
1 posted on 01/21/2005 1:32:42 AM PST by moonpie57
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To: moonpie57

If an arrest doesn't come out of this quickly, people will rightly lose faith in the ability of the justice system to protect them.


2 posted on 01/21/2005 1:35:16 AM PST by seacapn
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To: moonpie57
Islam is not a religion. It is a cult of criminal conspiracy.
3 posted on 01/21/2005 1:36:41 AM PST by Cornpone
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Or,...

Jersey City is is a lot of old wooden houses...

I think, some people will find the people...

and they won't be found!

5 posted on 01/21/2005 1:47:42 AM PST by Nitro
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To: Boolean Logic

Troll alert


6 posted on 01/21/2005 1:52:52 AM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: moonpie57
..., and the First Amendment and American law enforcement will not protect you. ...

two words....Second Amendment.

7 posted on 01/21/2005 1:53:26 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: beaversmom

Previous posts don't sound trollish.


8 posted on 01/21/2005 1:58:00 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Boolean Logic
I believe Western civilization, realizing the 'wrongheadedness' of some of the more radical undercurrents in Christianity, began to define the boundary between religion's spiritual domain and the political domain of emerging free societies. It was through a process known today as the reformation. Islam has undergone no such rationalization of doctrine, and speaking from first hand experience working in Islamic countries, I can tell you there is virtually no act that can't be justified under the 'rubric' of their religion. To call a spade a spade is not a rant.
10 posted on 01/21/2005 2:00:13 AM PST by Cornpone
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"Rants like yours give Dhimmicrats ammunition to accuse the GOP of being a group of reactionaries and gun-toting bigoted nuts."

Barbara Streisand. Truth is truth. Americans have known since 9-11 that some muslims are Islamo-facists, and
most people who study this a little bit know that the cult of Islam is based on the exploitation of the weak by demanding tribute 'or else'.

I thank God its no worse than it currently is. Nonetheless, we ought to shame the muslims every time something like this happens.


11 posted on 01/21/2005 2:00:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: Boolean Logic
Catholicism has a similar concept to "Taqiyya". It's called "Casuism".

You should explain this gem.

12 posted on 01/21/2005 2:05:48 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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Islam is based on the exploitation of the weak by demanding tribute 'or else'.

I believe you are correct in this. Islam began with Muhammad's bitterness that he wasn't getting his fair cut of the take in the idol worship business in Mecca. His adoption of a mono-theology and his perversion of Christianity was a new entrant in the market which he hoped to exploit in the establishment of a mandated tourist market...the Hajj. Islam has always been about money and how to suck it out.

13 posted on 01/21/2005 2:08:22 AM PST by Cornpone
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To: Boolean Logic
We can either have moderate muslims as our friends and allies, or we can p*ss them all off and make our enemies even stronger, by being narrow-minded and bigoted.

Or, Muslims can take responsibility for a 'religion' that is out of control just as Western civilization did in its revolt against Rome's perversion of Christianity. This really is their problem and trying to cozy up to those that lack the courage to confront the forces of evil within their own institution as Christians rebuffed the Papacy isn't going to fix it.

16 posted on 01/21/2005 2:18:30 AM PST by Cornpone
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To: Boolean Logic
We can either have moderate muslims as our friends and allies, or we can p*ss them all off

I'll go for the the p*ssed off muzzies, thanks.

18 posted on 01/21/2005 2:22:23 AM PST by Colosis (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Boolean Logic

You can't substantiate your claim. Admit it.


19 posted on 01/21/2005 2:22:38 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: Boolean Logic
The same way that Catholics should take responsibility for Humanae Vitae and all the misery and suffering that has resulted.

Just another bigot, eh troll?

Enjoy your short stay and your long zot.

20 posted on 01/21/2005 2:23:55 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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