Posted on 01/20/2005 9:33:31 PM PST by RWR8189
Here is the article Buckley wrote about the speech
What Is Bush Saying?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1325647/posts
Like I say before .. He's a drama queen too
She does this sort of thing in almost every article of hers I've ever read. She wanders around in some kind of misty wonderland of her own mind, and only makes a pertinent point if she happens to bump into one by accident.
That's the problem with President Bush. He just can't corral that pesky old enthusiasm for liberty with............using best Bill Buckley imitation..........appropriately MODerate rhetoric.
Too bad, Mr. Buckley. I admire you greatly, but sometimes being moderate isn't the right thing to do.
Ummmmmm......no. You should check out the Buckley thread - his comments were directly about the speech. No offense, but if you tell someone "before you jump in to criticize, you should check out what's going on", you really should make sure that have yourself checked out what's going on.
What Mo was replying to in the post you called her on and pinged me to, was NOT about Buckley or his article.
Nice try.
Up to this point, I have not commented on the speech. Nor my opinion of Noonan. I disagree with her that this was way too much God. However, I credit Noonan as a leader in the conservative movement. Her voice has been clear, resonant and sound for decades.
mission inebriation---IMO, was just her "artsy" way of describing a moment, an ideal, a flow, a fevor.
There has been a disconcerting attack on people who disagree with the President here lately.
Sorry to disappoint you Jeff .. But OhioWfan is correct .. my comments in that post were not directly in relation to the speech
I was speaking generally
I've noticed that also .. I try to ignore that part, because I do want to read what she has to say ... but it's sometimes hard to
"The president's speech seemed rather heavenish. It was a God-drenched speech. This president, who has been accused of giving too much attention to religious imagery and religious thought, has not let the criticism enter him. God was invoked relentlessly. "The Author of Liberty." "God moves and chooses as He wills. We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind . . . the longing of the soul.""It seemed a document produced by a White House on a mission. The United States, the speech said, has put the world on notice: Good governments that are just to their people are our friends, and those that are not are, essentially, not. We know the way: democracy. The president told every nondemocratic government in the world to shape up. "Success in our relations [with other governments] will require the decent treatment of their own people."
"We are led, by events and common sense, to one conclusion: The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands." "Across the generations we have proclaimed the imperative of self government. . . . Now it is the urgent requirement of our nation's security, and the calling of our time." "It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in the world."
"Ending tyranny in the world? Well that's an ambition, and if you're going to have an ambition it might as well be a big one. But this declaration, which is not wrong by any means, seemed to me to land somewhere between dreamy and disturbing. Tyranny is a very bad thing and quite wicked, but one doesn't expect we're going to eradicate it any time soon. Again, this is not heaven, it's earth.
Ronzo says:
I know it's a matter of personal taste, but I find there's nothing Noonan says or writes about that is original or interesting to me.
No problem. Just wanted to be sure it got cleared up.
I think he is Jiminy Cricket's lost twin. Jiminy had lasik surgery though, I think. And he has a conscience.
Peggy's version of Reagan's speech at the Brandeburg Gate: Mr. Gorbachev, please come. I understand that it's unrealistic to tear this wall down. So, we'll have tead and take a look it together.
Bush placed independence on the back burner with that sentence of his. Even faith cant't change those words he used.
As Ben Franklin stated, we must all stand together or we will all hang separately.
Ben Frankling talked about fighting for independence. George Bush talked about giving up independence.
That is a VERY big difference between Ben and George.
Peggy must have sat there and watched it on the bOOb tube.
Our nation relies on men and women who look after a neighbor
Neighbor? Does he mean American neighbor, or does "neighbor" mean tsunami victims or recipients of the billions we send overseas?
and must always remember that even the unwanted have worth.
I can assure you that Bush was talking about the poor of the world, not Americans. Being that $1.1 trillion of our $2 trillion dollar budget goes toward domestic social welfare, Bush is not preacing about that. He was preaching for more globalism and welfare directed toward the poor of the world.
Whether you agree or not, this speech was about less American independence, more American globalism, less personal liberty, more wealth transfer, less America first, more New World Order.
Our nation relies on men and women who look after a neighbor
Neighbor? Does he mean American neighbor, or does "neighbor" mean tsunami victims or recipients of the billions we send overseas?
and must always remember that even the unwanted have worth.
I can assure you that Bush was talking about the poor of the world, not Americans. Being that $1.1 trillion of our $2 trillion dollar budget goes toward domestic social welfare, Bush is not preacing about that. He was preaching for more globalism and welfare directed toward the poor of the world.
Whether you agree or not, this speech was about less American independence, more American globalism, less personal liberty, more wealth transfer, less America first, more New World Order.
See post #518 for my take on it.
Thanks for your opinion.
I remember the hubbub about this one but couldn't find the thread, so here's the article:
Philosphy, Not Policy - Opinion Journal/Noonan
PEGGY NOONANPhilosophy, Not Policy
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