Group Takes Its Cause, And Guns, to Va. Capitol

washington post.com ^ | January 18, 2005 | Rosalind S. Helderman

[freepatriot32]

RICHMOND, Jan. 17 -- The metal detector just inside the doors of Virginia's General Assembly Building let out a shriek Monday as Stafford resident Bruce Jackson strode through.

That was not at all surprising, since Jackson was wearing a loaded .45-caliber handgun under his blazer. On the other side of the gate, a uniformed Capitol Police officer examined his driver's license, then his concealed handgun permit, had a quick word and waved him along.

The routine took only a few moments, but for Jackson and other members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, it required one step too many.

[freepatriot32]

Members of the same group caused a stir in Northern Virginia last year, when police were called out several times after members wore their guns openly to restaurants, including Starbucks and Champps. Carrying a gun openly is legal in Virginia, however, and each instance was resolved in their favor.

Every one that lives in a open carry state needs to do this every day until the sheeple get use to seeing it.then and only then wil lthings start changing for the better

[freepatriot32]

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[LibertarianInExile]

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[LibertarianInExile]

[VAHV] Group member Josh Horwitz of Arlington said that requiring the permits means police know gun-toting lobbyists have cleared a criminal check. Without them, he said, "we don't know if they're law abiding. We don't know that they're skilled. We don't know that they're trained."

As if knowing they're skilled or trained or law abiding would make a bit of difference--if they could ban guns outright in Va they would.

[Bulldog1967]

PROUD MEMBER OF THE VCDL BUMP!

[spodefly]

I'll keep mine hidden. I don't wan't the 'sheeple' knowing I have a gun.

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[Emmett McCarthy]

I personally appreciate the good work beinbg done by this group and others throughout all 50 states. If I understand Virginia's law correctly, open carry requires only that a person not be a felon, but concealed carry requires a permit which involves obtaining approval from a judge, which I think is a problem. In Tennessee, we are issued "carry permits" PERIOD under which "open" or "concealed" carry is our choice and no judge is involved - just a training class and a background check. I prefer concealed carry because I don't want to be the first person the bad guy decides to take out if he's determined to commit a crime.

Anyway, it seems that under Virginia's law folks who don't want to subject themselves to the whims of some judge in order to be issued a concealed carry permit have no choice but to carry openly. And judges are notoriously whimsical. I think I remember that Oliver North was denied a concealed carry permit.

[Dead Corpse]

I do. I want everyone to know they can count on me for help if they need it.

[Dead Corpse]

We need Nationalized Open Carry.

[zeugma]

I think we'd do better with nationalized vermony carry.

If we didn't have a bunch of weasels on the supreme court, this would already have happened.

[ruhbarb]

Proud VCDL member here. I will be manning the VCDL table at the Salem Va this sat. morning. Drop by and say hi. We work hard for your rights and can use all the help we can get.

[ruhbarb]

I will be at the Salem Gun Show I meant to say. I will be at a table at the front of of the entrance to the show. Drop by and say hi.