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Black helicopters hover over MS anti-spyware play
The Register ^ | 18th January 2005 | Mark Rasch

Posted on 01/18/2005 10:56:10 AM PST by holymoly

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Or, the company may simply be using its new anti-spyware technology as a ruse for rooting out and eventually destroying unlicensed copies of its operating system.

Bingo.
1 posted on 01/18/2005 10:56:17 AM PST by holymoly
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To: holymoly; Tijeras_Slim

2 posted on 01/18/2005 11:03:37 AM PST by martin_fierro (Who askew?)
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I would agree, understanding the prevailing attitudes at MS. They care about MS and optimizing their profits. Period. As time progresses, I think MS will enjoy a reducing percentage of market share, due mainly to its predatory and self-supporting attitudes toward its customer base. I am not saying MS does not have a righ to protect its intellectual property -- they do not have a right, legally or ethically, to deception upon their customer base.


3 posted on 01/18/2005 11:05:14 AM PST by EagleUSA
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where'd you find that diagram? I don't care who you are thats funny right there.


4 posted on 01/18/2005 11:08:13 AM PST by timtoews5292004
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Oh, I think the effort to integrate anti-spyware features into the Microsoft distributions is sincere enough, it's just seen through the filter of anti-piracy that was the last corporate obsession before security issues became the current one.

Right now, neither my browser (Internet Explorer), nor my media player (Windows Media Player) nor my Word Processor (MS Word) nor my E-mail server (MS Outlook) disable themselves if my OS is unlicensed.

Yeah...right now.

5 posted on 01/18/2005 11:10:31 AM PST by Billthedrill
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where'd you find that diagram?

I could tell you.

But then I'd have to kill you.

6 posted on 01/18/2005 11:16:21 AM PST by martin_fierro (Who askew?)
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They care about MS and optimizing their profits. Period.

Don't you believe it. Bill would give it all up in a heartbeat for the chance to star in a gladiator movie.


7 posted on 01/18/2005 11:16:49 AM PST by LTCJ
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Funny. I never have any trouble downloading upgrades, etc. from Microsoft. Wonder why that is?

Oh, wait...I PAID for my copy of XP. Never mind.


8 posted on 01/18/2005 11:23:25 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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i understand. I've probably said to much by merely asking you where you found it.


9 posted on 01/18/2005 11:23:32 AM PST by timtoews5292004
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users attempting to download the software are informed that "[t]his download is available to customers running genuine Microsoft Windows. Please click Continue to begin Windows validation."

For what it's worth, you don't HAVE to do the validation right now. You can skip it and download the program anyway. I don't know how long that will be the case, but it's true right now.

10 posted on 01/18/2005 11:26:01 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Everyone else gives it away for free. Why shouldn't Microsoft?


11 posted on 01/18/2005 11:29:31 AM PST by Brilliant
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Oh, wait...I PAID for my copy of XP. Never mind.

I don't even run XP, so I don't have a dog in this hunt.

I did, however, find it mildly amusing that Microsoft would (essentially) employ the use of spyware before allowing XP users to download its' "anti-spyware" software.
12 posted on 01/18/2005 11:30:43 AM PST by holymoly (About:Blank)
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"The executable presumably scans the OS for the license key, and generates a key code that the user is directed to send to Microsoft. If the key code is for an unlicensed version of the OS, the user is directed to purchase the software online, and is denied the opportunity to download the anti-spyware software."

So he doesn't actually know what they're doing, but he's willing to criticize MS for his presumptions.


13 posted on 01/18/2005 11:31:04 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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"I did, however, find it mildly amusing that Microsoft would (essentially) employ the use of spyware before allowing XP users to download its' "anti-spyware" software.

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Nah, not really amusing. Microsoft is giving away this software to its existing customers. But they're making sure that it's "customers" who are getting it.

I used to own a software company...a very small one. Once in a while, I'd get a support call from someone who had never bought the software (I checked my customer database for each support call). You'd be amazed how ticked off these thieves were when I refused them support.


14 posted on 01/18/2005 11:34:07 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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This thread will self-destruct in 10 seconds.


15 posted on 01/18/2005 11:35:02 AM PST by martin_fierro (Who askew?)
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Or you could, you know, just click on "No, do not validate Windows at this time, but take me to the download", and thus bypass the OS check altogether.


16 posted on 01/18/2005 11:35:32 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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http://209.237.0.15/~jkahn/temp/blackhelicopters.jpg


17 posted on 01/18/2005 11:37:59 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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A lot of spyware is installed via the route of "click through agreements" which are clicked by users who should know better.

This brings up an interesting point. If Microsoft's anti spyware program finds and deactivates such programs, is Microsoft thus providing users with the tools to contravent EULAs, and does that give the spyware manufacturers a DMCA case against Microsoft?

Probably I have missed something here, but the concept is just so sweet......

18 posted on 01/18/2005 11:39:12 AM PST by Charlotte Corday (I don't burn the flag because I can. I will burn the flag if I can't.)
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To: EagleUSA

I would agree, understanding the prevailing attitudes at MS. They care about MS and optimizing their profits. Period.



Why would anyone think MS's motives were less than what is most profitable? Free Enterprise--Capitalism! Protect profits. Isn't that what farming our jobs out of the country is all about?


19 posted on 01/18/2005 11:41:27 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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What about the corporate edition. I know that there is copies of XP Pro corporate that doesnt require activation (for the obvious reason of flooding them with activations for a pc rollout or what not).

How does it handle that?


20 posted on 01/18/2005 11:43:36 AM PST by smith288 (I have posted over 10,000 times. The more I post, the more intelligent you become!)
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