[B4Ranch]

How fast could Europe, China, Africa, and the Middle-East organize the same charity effort that we put forth for the tsunami disaster?


>>Our UN veto means that the UN can't place global economic sanctions and embargoes onto Israel, for one thing.<<

Are you more concerned for the USA or Israel becoming a victim?


>>For your other claim, keep in mind that many organizations survive today *without* U.S. membership; so too could the UN.<<

We are the reason why the UN doesn't just 'survive'. We are the reason why they are effective.

>>I promise you that Europe, China, Africa, and the Middle-East would *love* to pay for a UN that had no U.S. veto<<

Then why aren't you promoting the idea that they pay as much as we do every year?.

When I look at what we pay in cash and how much of our military strength or the threat of our military strength is used to 'satisfy' UN needs, I don't see Europe, China, Africa, and the Middle-East working hand in hand to replace us.

[B4Ranch]

I meant to ping you my reply at #49, so here goes ....

Ping

[wagglebee]

I think if the US left the UN, Israel would follow immediately, the UK, Portugal, Australia and many of the former Soviet Bloc countries would quit within a year.

Most of the nations that trade with Israel would ignore any economic sanctions, and we saw with Iraq how effective UN sanctions are to begin with.

Vetos are irrelevant, basically everything of importance is vetoed anyway. I am unaware of any crisis that the UN has effectively handled in its history.