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Absolutely...

Whatever people saw in those stupid pictures PALES in comparision to what you will not see, that actually is torture, or softening up of prisoners to get them prepared for the "real" interrogations to follow...

All this naked-ness, leash bags over their heads and having women in their presense is an absolute physically painless method of getting the results the "intelligence" community needed at the time...

Just goes to show how absolutely stupid and gutless some people are who think that that treatment and conditions rendered in Abu Graib wasn't warranted or justified...

I guess it would be better to just line a bunch of them up, shoot the first prisoner, ask the next one a question, if no answer is given, shoot that one, and proceed down the line till you get an answer...Seem rediculously reasonable to me...Saves money and time...

But then again those who are offended by these actions, so far, think you'd hear about stuff like what I just theorized...

Otherwise I guess it would be better for us and the rest of the world if we just wrap our arms around these poor individuals, hug them and squeeze them and call them George, before we let them go with a $1000 in their pocket and wish them well...

Maybe they, and the rest of the world will think better of us then...

Geesh...Forgive me...I am just shooting from the hip on this one...

"I guess it would be better to just line a bunch of them up, shoot the first prisoner, ask the next one a question, if no answer is given, shoot that one, and proceed down the line till you get an answer...Seem ridiculously reasonable to me...Saves money and time... "

That is fine by me. Just don't take any pictures and everyone involved keep their mouths shut.

All this naked-ness, leash bags over their heads and having women in their presense is an absolute physically painless method of getting the results the "intelligence" community needed at the time...

Thank you.
I didn't see anyone bleeding. I never saw anyone sustain an injury.

If a prisoner has intel that if given up can save American lives
then I am in favor of bleeding or injury for them.

If they are just being badgered because of their nationality I think that is dishonorable.

Bottom line is that it matters WHY a prisoner is being treated a certain way.

If Massoud knows where an IED strike will occur I'd happily sanction his being flayed.

If Joe U.S. Recruit decides to have some fun to amuse himself though, he oughta be hanged.

We don't know the context of the treatment. Probably never will.

All I'm saying is that the context dictates the judgement.

Whatever people saw in those stupid pictures PALES in comparision to what you will not see, that actually is torture, or softening up of prisoners to get them prepared for the "real" interrogations to follow...

I agree.