[FreedomCalls]

"They" meant Graner and the female. That's what we're discussing in this article.

So do you think that there was severe abuse occuring at Abu Ghraib, some of which could be construed as torture, but Spc. Graner and Spc. Harmon did not commit it?

[plain talk]

I think you are wasting far too much time and bandwidth agonizing over any of this. AMF