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To: KiloLima
Unlike the majority of posters to this thread, I actually know what I'm talking about.

Graner wasn't even an MP...he was just a prison guard.

Graner's uncle was angry that his nephew was in trouble for doing what he had done and in BIG trouble with the military. So he wrote to the president (I think) and to people in the Pentagon to complain.When he didn't get what he desired,he wrote to Wes Clark,with the pictures,who sent them to Mapes.

209 posted on 01/15/2005 5:05:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Wes Clark and Janis Karpinski = [evil] twins separated at birth!


221 posted on 01/15/2005 5:11:38 PM PST by KiloLima (Amnesty is to "Guest Worker Program" as Terrorist is to "Insurgent.")
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To: nopardons

P.S. Read all my posts. We don't agree on everything but at least we can talk! So far . . . heheh :-)


225 posted on 01/15/2005 5:13:47 PM PST by KiloLima (Amnesty is to "Guest Worker Program" as Terrorist is to "Insurgent.")
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To: nopardons
"Unlike the majority of posters to this thread, I actually know what I'm talking about. "

HAHHAHAHAHA.....nominated for the funniest post on FR today....lol
227 posted on 01/15/2005 5:16:19 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: nopardons
When he didn't get what he desired,he wrote to Wes Clark,with the pictures,who sent them to Mapes.

Minor correction, but he sent them to Col David Hackworth, who sent them to Mapes.

277 posted on 01/15/2005 5:49:42 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: nopardons

It fries me that people think that Rumsfeld, or anyone else at the Pentagon, would order up an orgy for plain ol' prisoners. There was no interrogation planned for these guys. There was no reason to 'soften them up,' at all.

The tactics used by interrogators are measured and designed for effectiveness. They do it because they have to, because lives depend on it.

What these people did was for their own pleasure. This is just sick and depraved behavior... behavior that they would have indulged in at an S&M club in civilian life... the fact that the prisoners were under their complete control just made it more enjoyable for them.

I do think 10 years is a bit much, but it sends a message. We police our own. And we don't welcome sexual sadists into our armed forces.


462 posted on 01/18/2005 5:34:46 PM PST by Shazolene
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