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To: Txsleuth
I'm with you, Tx. I'm glad that Graner has been punished, but not because I feel bad for the Iraqi prisoners. Those inmates were bad people, period. I'd rather have 100 Graners loose in my neighborhood than a single inmate from that wing of the prison.

But that's not the point. Graner and his fool cohorts handed our enemies the world over a stunning propaganda victory; a Tet Offensive without the offensive. The message MUST be sent to the rank and file that this kind of thing will get you crucified. If not, each new event will arm our enemies with new ammunition. It does us no good to win militarily if we keep giving up ground politically and morally.

It's a PR war now. It sucks, but we can very easily lose this war on perception alone.

119 posted on 01/15/2005 4:14:14 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Those inmates were bad people, period. I'd rather have 100 Graners loose in my neighborhood than a single inmate from that wing of the prison.

People keep alleging these were the "worse of the worse" or whatever, but it's not true. It was a mix. By example, one of them (from the pyramid/forced masturbation) was merely accused of stealing a car, and later released on them having no evidence.

129 posted on 01/15/2005 4:19:46 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Steel Wolf
I should say, it's not altogether true (in part, it is - there were some much worse offenders).
131 posted on 01/15/2005 4:21:14 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Steel Wolf

"But that's not the point. Graner and his fool cohorts handed our enemies the world over a stunning propaganda victory; a Tet Offensive without the offensive."

No...your 1st amendment free press gave the islamofacists the "victory"...


136 posted on 01/15/2005 4:23:25 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Steel Wolf
It's a PR war now. It sucks, but we can very easily lose this war on perception alone.

That and the MSM that is so eager to exploit such incidents for their own agendas. Just look at Vietnam. A winnable war that got lost due to propaganda alone.

411 posted on 01/16/2005 3:02:31 PM PST by Paul_Denton
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