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1 posted on 01/14/2005 10:10:32 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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Have a great weekend, y'all -- God bless.


2 posted on 01/14/2005 10:11:37 AM PST by JohnHuang2 ("You can get so well educated ... your thoughts become detached from common sense" -- Peggy Noonan)
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Rather is a delusional paranoid psychopath, living proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.


3 posted on 01/14/2005 10:12:23 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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He swearers he took it out of his Selectric typewriter just before the show.


6 posted on 01/14/2005 10:14:42 AM PST by handy old one (Never confuse the facts with the issues!!)
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Dan finally succumbed to a basic communist/socialist prinicpal. He told a lie so big that even he believes it.


7 posted on 01/14/2005 10:14:42 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Rather is so hung up on the "truth" of this document, I'd be willing to bet that his own daughter is the source. How could he doubt his daughter?


9 posted on 01/14/2005 10:15:47 AM PST by fish hawk
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This is what Dan Rather means when he says he's a man of faith.


13 posted on 01/14/2005 10:17:59 AM PST by Brilliant
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Deep Beast (Hildebea$t giving Blather the lies about GW!


14 posted on 01/14/2005 10:18:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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This is good. The longer Dan wears his delusions in public the more naked he looks. If CBS is suicidal enough to actually air any of his post-anchor reports, they'll have zero credibility. A win-win, really. Any network that was satisfied to let Dan and the ghost of Edward R. Murrow pilot their ship deserves to sink with no lifeboats.


16 posted on 01/14/2005 10:20:22 AM PST by WestTexasWend
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Sorry, SeeBS, even the "story" the phony documents are supposed to be about is phony
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Find an overview of the FACTS about GWB's Texas Air National Guard Service at http://www.hillnews.com/york/090904.aspx

A summary of the salient points are at  http://boortz.com/nuze/200409/09152004.html#guard

STAUDT FINALLY SURFACES: DUBYA DID NOT GET SPECIAL TREATMENT AND "SUGAR COATING" WAS NEVER REQUESTED BY ANYBODY.  See both
http://snipurl.com/95ad  and  http://snipurl.com/9bny

Ed Morrisey, the guy who swore W into the TANG weighs in here:  http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/173996   (the paper's front page is at  http://www.thedailytimes.com/  )

Find this:  "The Air Force, in their ultimate wisdom, assembled a group of 102's [F-102 pilots] and took them to Southeast Asia. Bush volunteered to go.  But he needed to have 500 [flight] hours, but he only had just over 300 hours so he wasn't eligible to go,” Morrisey recalls. ... Despite that, Lieutenant Bush stayed busy. ... "He flew in active air defense missions, training missions.    Day, night, regardless of inclement weather," Morrisey says. ... Colonel Morrisey assured us that to the best of his knowledge Lieutenant Bush was treated like any other officer in the Texas Air National Guard. ... Morrisey says he considers himself to be more of a Libertarian than Republican or Democrat.  Nonetheless, Morrisey says he is voting for George Bush come election day. -- in BOTH printable version AND video clip at   http://www.volunteertv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2346701

See what Dubya's Wing Men (NOT boaters or yachtsmen, now, but FELLOW FIGHTER PILOTS) had to say (they were not in the SAME supersonic fighter plane with him, but they DID SERVE WITH HIM AND FLEW ALONGSIDE HIM) here: http://snipurl.com/6qkp

A Commentary by Col. John H. Wambough, Jr. USAF (Ret.) is at:  http://jb-williams.com/guest-kerry.htm

Major General Hodges says GWB didn't get preferential treatment, didn't need any, and besides, he's mad at CBS for misleading him here:  http://snipurl.com/a3y2

4 Eyewitnesses who saw GWB serving in Alabama are quoted and sourced HERE: http://snipurl.com/a3y3

See Exactly WHERE George W. Bush's TANG service fits in The REALLY Big Picture here:  http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3919

And don't forget, IT WAS GWB who signed the Standard Form 180 asking that ALL his military records be released and JFK who DID NOT.  Physical exams were irrelevant to someone like GWB who'd already taken physicals and flown for 3 years and no more flying was required (on top of that, the F-102 had started to be phased out anyway); they were never considered worth writing him up for except in the FAKE memos, the source of which SeeBS refuses to identify.  The attitude of SeeBS and everyone who sided with them seems to be that it's OK to plant evidence if you think -- or at least hope -- someone's guilty.

"In Texas in the late sixties and early seventies, it was so Democratic that no Republican had enough pull to have a parking ticket fixed [let alone get someone into the National Guard]." -- Robert, Lubbock, TX -- email to Fox NewsWatch, 9-18-04

Besides, Daddy Bush (GHWB) was only a junior Republican U.S. Congressman at the time and had absolutely NO influence in the LBJ/Barnes-dominated state government in Austin.   THE reason they took W was because the Texas Air National Guard didn't have enough applicants to be pilots at the time, while almost all the other services did.

Bush served HONORABLY, with multiple links HERE:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1230803/posts

"The [Texas Air National Guard] records released Tuesday also include orders for an August 1971 training mission in Canada, where Bush impressed his commanders. An evaluation written nine months later said Bush's 'skills as an interceptor pilot enabled him to complete all his ADC (Air Defense Command) intercept missions during the Canadian deployment with ease'." -- The Wichita Eagle, 10-5-04

Kerry's questions are answered here:  http://snipurl.com/a71g

This whole SeeBS fiasco was based on such an irrelevant non-story from the git-go that one can only presume there was a complete breakdown, or even lack, of standards and possibly, even malice aforethought, especially if you review the timeline of the SeeBS fiasco here:
http://snipurl.com/a3y6

Golly, it would have been nice to say, well, they both were irresponsible kids who got away with really, really bad stuff, but hell, it's all water over the dam, etc.  EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT TURNS OUT IF W GOT INTO ANY MISCHIEF, IT HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH WHAT THEY'VE TRIED TO FRAME HIM FOR.  The NYTimes' and Flim Flam Dan Rather's claims that yes, the memos are fake, but what they say is true -- amounts to saying it's OK to fabricate and plant evidence if you think -- or at least hope --  someone's guilty.

As far as the documents go, their fraudulence is demonstrated here: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog   and here: http://snipurl.com/9cvjSee what a REAL Texas Air National Guard document from the '70s looks like HERE: http://www.geocities.com/bush_not_awol/document40.html

The latest attempt to prove the phony memos are "real" (this time by Utah Professor David Hailey), is shown to be yet ANOTHER fraud here:  http://wizbangblog.com/archives/003851.php

The Texas forgery code provides that publication of two or more fake government documents is a felony.  Follow the updates on CBS's tampering with the evidence in this crime HERE:  http://snipurl.com/9eqw   Further, there may have been a criminal conspiracy to use forged documents in an attempt to influence a Presidential election, a federal crime.

-- from THIS PAGE.


17 posted on 01/14/2005 10:20:53 AM PST by FreeKeys (Obviously, SeeBS thinks it's OK to plant "evidence" if you think, or at least hope, someone's guilty)
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www.newsmax.com: Thursday, Jan. 13, 2005 4:03 p.m. EST
Ex-CBS News Prez Can't Stand Rather

Former CBS News president Van Gordon Sauter said Thursday that Dan Rather's liberal bias has so permeated the "CBS Evening News" that even he can't stand to watch anymore.

"I stopped watching it some time ago," the ex-network news boss writes in today's Los Angeles Times. "The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me."

Sauter, who ran the Tiffany network's news division in the early 1980s, said he still checks in from time to time, but "less and less frequently." Instead, "I increasingly drift to NBC News and Fox and MSNBC," he said.
The former news exec said this week's firings of four CBS employees in response to the Rathergate scandal exposed the real problem for network news:

"A large swath of the society doesn't trust the news media," he contended. "And for many, it's even stronger than that: They abhor the media and perceive it as an escalating threat to the society."

If the erosion of public trust isn't stopped, warns Sauter, viewers will look elsewhere for their news product.

"Those readers and viewers most comfortable in the center – will try to find something ... in the center," he argues.

But that could lead to "a lot of scrupulously impartial . . . news sources, managed by research-driven executives who find it a good marketing approach."

Ultimately, says Sauter, "banality will trump opinion."


18 posted on 01/14/2005 10:24:45 AM PST by toldyou
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Anyone who has read or heard parts of the Thornburgh report will see that basically Rather tried to cover his @ss and let the others below him take the fall. He also used his influence to circumvent normal journalist reporting.

I been suggested all day yesterday and I will again today, that we coin a few new phrases in the aftermath of Rathergate.

1. The Dan Rather Syndrome

The Dan Rather Syndrome: Noun. A pervasive attitude in one's work environment where the boss often has his subordinates take the blame for any of his (or her) wrong doing so as to cover his own @ss.

For example:

"My boss has Dan Rather Syndrome. He let two of us take the hit for his screw up on those mutual funds."

2. danrathered.

dan-rath'-erred: verb 1. to be let go to cover the incompetent missteps taken by a superior. 2. using one's influence to overturn the will of a majority of people.

Example:

"My boss danrathered me. He let me take the fall for his blunder that cost us the Anderson account."

3. Danrather Journalism

danrather journalism: noun. A term that denotes politically biased journalism.

example:

"The editorial displayed evidence of danrather journalism, portraying the republican senator as a racist."


Let this be Dan Rather's legacy.

nikos


19 posted on 01/14/2005 10:26:10 AM PST by nikos1121
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Rather still thinks John Kerry may Ohio, also.


22 posted on 01/14/2005 10:38:25 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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"What is the frequency, Dan?"


23 posted on 01/14/2005 10:44:57 AM PST by pabianice
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"In other words, like my headline says: Rather Saves Job; fall gals take the rap

Anyway, that's... My Two Cents... "JohnHuang2"

The two cents worth that is always worth a cool million, in my book! Thanks JH2

24 posted on 01/14/2005 10:45:19 AM PST by dokmad
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Dan Rather is the solution.

Dan Rather is not betraying liberal mainstream media -- he is its ultimate fulfillment. He is the promised one. He is everything that is wrong about contemporary journalism. "It is because I say so! Damn the facts."

The best thing is to have him continue in the public eye as a constant embarrassment to all the would-be Dans in every editors' office in the nation. Yes, you really look that way to everybody else.

"Mr. Rather, the Reverend Jesse Jackson will now see you."


25 posted on 01/14/2005 10:46:54 AM PST by MikeHu
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Eric Burns on Fox made a good point. The best way for CBS to pull itself out of this mess is to find out who made the false documents and expose them. Say, "We were duped, but we've found the man that duped us."

Never happen, of course.

30 posted on 01/14/2005 11:48:35 AM PST by Libertarian Jim (http://www.jim-rose.com/)
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also known as the Dinosaur Channel

Is that your work? It's great!

31 posted on 01/14/2005 12:00:39 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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Nice!


32 posted on 01/14/2005 12:02:36 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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i wrote moonves when the story broke before the election and told him that rather should resign.


35 posted on 01/14/2005 12:59:10 PM PST by ken21 (buenos mucus!)
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Very well writte, John.


38 posted on 01/14/2005 3:14:13 PM PST by Wolfstar (Welcome, Miss Beazley! We W fans love you already.)
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